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1. ipytho+BD[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:07:09
>>david9+(OP)
I was just at a conference today where one of the presenters referenced the "Trust barometer": https://www.edelman.com/trust/2025/trust-barometer

According to that study, 23% approved of the statement "I approve hostile activism to drive change by threatening or committing violence". It's even higher if you only focus on 18-34 year olds.

Full report here: https://www.edelman.com/sites/g/files/aatuss191/files/2025-0...

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2. autoex+xE[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:12:09
>>ipytho+BD
"threatening or committing violence" could mean almost anything. It isn't hard to find evidence of people (especially young ones) equating speech with violence.

I imagine that "I support assassination to drive change" would be even less popular.

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3. zdragn+wH[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:25:28
>>autoex+xE
Have we already forgotten the absurd amount of support the murderer of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare?

Maybe it wasn't 23%, but it was certainly not insignificant.

> It isn't hard to find evidence of people (especially young ones) equating speech with violence.

I don't think anyone conflates the phrase "threatening or committing violence" with "threatening or committing calling you a bad name". Yes, there's too much equating speech and violence, but the particular wording of threatening or committing imho is largely still reserved for the physical variety.

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4. SV_Bub+sz1[view] [source] 2025-09-11 05:46:31
>>zdragn+wH
>Have we already forgotten the absurd amount of support the murderer of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare?

Oh yea. A guy was murdered with an illegal handgun and an illegal silencer. and not one single Democrat usually so hot to call for more gun control did so.

Must have slipped their minds.

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