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1. zx8080+E7[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:39:14
>>joseph+(OP)
This story with restricting users is a similar one to Manifest V3 in Chromium.

But we don't have anything like FF as an alternative to go from Android. Especially considering banks require "certified OS".

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2. Perent+X9[view] [source] 2025-09-02 05:08:34
>>zx8080+E7
I don't do banking on my phone. I really don't understand why anyone would. If I can't get to my PC or laptop, I'm probably near an ATM. I've already given so much autonomy to Google/Alphabet/Apple, I won't give them access to my bank account.
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3. em-bee+oa[view] [source] 2025-09-02 05:13:42
>>Perent+X9
even if you use a computer to do banking, like i do, some banks still require an app for 2FA, or windows...

ATMs won't let me send money or do any other kind of maintenance

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4. 1gn15+8q[view] [source] 2025-09-02 08:11:49
>>em-bee+oa
I think this depends on the ATM. OCBC ones do allow sending money digitally.

Oh, and you can always send money by withdrawing cash and giving it to the other person physically.

Or go to the bank branch, or write a cheque.

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5. rollca+Yx[view] [source] 2025-09-02 09:36:29
>>1gn15+8q
I won't leave my home to type a 20-digit IBAN into an ATM.

I won't travel to another city or country just to hand money in cash.

I won't travel to a branch to... I have never ever written or received a cheque, what the heck even is a cheque? A piece of paper someone can photo-copy?

I used to be able to do all of my banking from a web browser, from any browser/OS I liked. I've had a fob that displayed a 6-digit code rotating every 30s. This used to be simple and secure. What you propose is ludditism.

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6. BlueTe+Uk1[view] [source] 2025-09-02 14:50:07
>>rollca+Yx
Luddism -- in this case going without a smartphone altogether -- is quickly becoming the most reasonable option.

You are also quite quick to dismiss cheques as someone that never even tried them...

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7. rollca+OJ2[view] [source] 2025-09-02 21:24:24
>>BlueTe+Uk1
You don't solve "abusive technology" by getting rid of the technology, you solve it by addressing the abuse.
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8. BlueTe+tD3[view] [source] 2025-09-03 06:10:53
>>rollca+OJ2
Why not ? Worked out fine for asbestos. Technics aren't neutral.
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9. rollca+h04[view] [source] 2025-09-03 10:20:12
>>BlueTe+tD3
Asbestos wasn't understood well at first, and its continued use was due to its utility. Practically all countries around the world have successfully regulated/banned it. Removing asbestos is when it becomes most dangerous.

Online banking is dead simple to secure: require a TOTP token. It's something you have (like a debit card) + something you know (PIN/password). The poison being introduced is through a third party, and entirely unrelated to the original function.

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