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1. zx8080+E7[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:39:14
>>joseph+(OP)
This story with restricting users is a similar one to Manifest V3 in Chromium.

But we don't have anything like FF as an alternative to go from Android. Especially considering banks require "certified OS".

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2. yonata+F8[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:50:12
>>zx8080+E7
What if we collectively decide to use the web alternatives for banking? We lose some convinience since they are generally desktop oriented, but they don't check who signed my kernel
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3. thombl+F9[view] [source] 2025-09-02 05:05:14
>>yonata+F8
My bank recently made it that app-based MFA must be used for every single web login. Unless I and many others are willing to swap banks in the vain hope that the new bank won't do the same thing (I am not), then we're cooked.
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4. lrvick+5e[view] [source] 2025-09-02 06:01:30
>>thombl+F9
Just say you do not have a compatible device. Special undocumented alternatives appear every time in my experience.
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5. riedel+jf[view] [source] 2025-09-02 06:15:16
>>lrvick+5e
Sure, one option means paying for each SMS (actually they had to abandon that one), another option is getting a paid banking card just to use a hardware device. From my experience they try to make sure that you will get a certified phone . I just got one because for some reason my Redmi Note 10 despite passing all play integrity checks after hacks like Tricky store+Key box triggered some checks in my banking apps. I needed to use an aftermarket ROM, because my device would not receive any updates from Xiaomi (also I don't know why a device packed with Chinese bloat ware is certified as secure in the first place). And guess what I bought: a Google Pixel. Smart Google, huh.
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6. homebr+al[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:17:23
>>riedel+jf
These "security checks" are a complete, total, absolute joke. Just a couple of weeks ago I had a friend ask me to downgrade firmware on a similar Xiaomi device from the latest LineageOS to stock to make two shitty banks work. Nothing I did on Lineage would make "security checks" pass, even though it was running the cleanest possible Android 15 with the latest security patches applied.

Now the phone is running stock firmware from 2020, with Android security patches from 2020, and with numerous publicly known vulnerabilities. The banks work fine, Google Pay works fine, every Play Integrity check passes, even the strongest one (device integrity).

The only reason I see for it being implemented this way is not to lock the bad guys out from your phone, but to prevent you from doing anything to the banking applications, even through it is still possible through said vulnerabilities.

One of said banks also refuses to run if it detects remote assistance clients on your phone (like TeamViewer), or even Discord, because apparently these were used in scams over the past few years, and we need to protect even the stupidest at the expense of everyone else. How did we come to this "future"? The worst days of desktop Windows weren't even remotely close to this nonsense.

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7. BlueTe+ep[view] [source] 2025-09-02 08:01:55
>>homebr+al
Why would you care about this but still want to run Discord ??
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8. jamesn+bL[view] [source] 2025-09-02 11:33:01
>>BlueTe+ep
??? What's the correlation?
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