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1. zx8080+E7[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:39:14
>>joseph+(OP)
This story with restricting users is a similar one to Manifest V3 in Chromium.

But we don't have anything like FF as an alternative to go from Android. Especially considering banks require "certified OS".

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2. yonata+F8[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:50:12
>>zx8080+E7
What if we collectively decide to use the web alternatives for banking? We lose some convinience since they are generally desktop oriented, but they don't check who signed my kernel
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3. MathMo+4a[view] [source] 2025-09-02 05:10:00
>>yonata+F8
I uninstalled banking related apps from my phone years ago. I used it so infrequently that every time I did use it, it was as if it had been newly installed and didn't remember anything about me. Now I use a desktop web browser for anything finance (and it's Firefox on Linux, so thankfully that works for now).
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4. homebr+Nl[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:24:27
>>MathMo+4a
It's getting repetitive to come with the same message over and over and over again, but in many countries you can no longer interact with your bank through the web browser. The banks' applications are either required for 2FA, or are the only way to use remote banking at all.

The last one applies in my country. You can of course go to the bank branch for every little financial operation, which is bad enough by itself for us living in cities, but is practically impossible for my relatives in the rural area, who would have to drive 100 km to the nearest bank branch, and then back just to move some money between two accounts.

Even if you don't care for anyone else but your country, it will come to you also, I promise.

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5. fsflov+Em[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:32:45
>>homebr+Nl
You should at least complain to your bank and government, support NGOs fighting for your freedom like https://edri.org, https:/eff.org, or equivalent in your country.

Forcing you to use foreign megacorps for essential services should be illegal if not already.

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6. homebr+Uo[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:57:04
>>fsflov+Em
Sure, I complain basically every week, but it's like moving a mountain. It was the government's idea, and they're very gung-ho on continuing with it. The official reason is fighting tax evasion, but the more probable one is that the ruling elite has major stakes in all major banks, so they're very interested in making everyone dependent on those banks.

The only realistic thing left for me is moaning about it on the ole 'net and hoping (probably in vain) that this disease doesn't spread further to other countries. Western democracies are already in the process of copying several bad ideas we implemented 10+ years ago (and China more than 20 years ago), I don't see a reason why this also wouldn't be ported over.

And the digital sovereignty argument doesn't really work, one of the banks uses its own payment system — mostly copied from Chinese AliPay — and it's the most popular one here. Zero dependence on "the West" other than the phones themselves, where they think they have an alternative in Huawei and friends, and you're gonna have to depend on someone in any case, even just for internet infrastructure, or even cash printing machines.

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7. BlueTe+hq[view] [source] 2025-09-02 08:13:07
>>homebr+Uo
The problematic companies are all Russian/Chinese/USian(/Israeli ?) last I checked, so what "the West" generally has to do with it ?
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