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1. Shank+Bj[view] [source] 2025-08-13 13:23:41
>>amarch+(OP)
The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for. Whether or not this is ethical or useful, I wish the hypocrisy would be acknowledged. The OSA, the Apple encryption demands, LFR, …, it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?
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2. dathin+cW[view] [source] 2025-08-13 16:25:33
>>Shank+Bj
> The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for.

they always had been or at least tried, for decades by now, the only thing which had been holding them back was the EU frequently being like "no wtf UK, that is against human rights, EU law, etc."

> Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?

no, and it also has a long track record of not only marginally improving your crime statistics. And especially stuff like facial recognition vans are most times not used to protect citizens but to create lists for who attended demos and similar. Which is most useful for suppressing/harassing your citizens instead of protecting them.

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3. JFingl+D21[view] [source] 2025-08-13 16:57:54
>>dathin+cW
> EU frequently being like "no wtf UK, that is against human rights, EU law, etc."

And yet they are still pushing [0]

[0] https://edri.org/our-work/despite-warning-from-lawyers-eu-go...

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4. fao_+G42[view] [source] 2025-08-13 23:00:17
>>JFingl+D21
It's almost like huge organizations built off the backs of many different parties working in tandem, will at times have contradictory aims.
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5. zosima+M43[view] [source] 2025-08-14 10:14:10
>>fao_+G42
In that case it would be nice to see any effort from EU against government surveillance.

Sure GDPR and what not, but they're full of loopholes for allowing government to do what private parties are not.

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6. permo-+993[view] [source] 2025-08-14 11:05:13
>>zosima+M43
the EU has literally banned facial recognition by law enforcement across the entire bloc.

HN has terrible EU Derangement Syndrome:

any time its mentioned here, suddenly there are tens of people lining up to blindly shit on it, usually for laws it hasn't actually passed, or literal anti-truths like your comment, despite the fact that it is consistently passing the best tech-focused laws of any major governmental body anywhere, and the proposed laws that everyone repeatedly loses their minds over have never once actually come to pass. even when they released the DMA and DSA, possibly the two most HN-friendly pieces of legislation of all time, half the comments were attempts at criticism, basically seemingly because people here just love to hate the EU, sans facts

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