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1. mytail+Xr[view] [source] 2025-08-13 14:07:22
>>amarch+(OP)
In itself this is a storm in a teacup.

The important question, only important question IMHO, is how they handle positives. Do they go all guns blazing and arrest the person on the spot? Or do they use a restrained approach and first nicely ask the person if they have any ID, etc? That's the important bit.

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2. raspyb+wx[view] [source] 2025-08-13 14:33:41
>>mytail+Xr
Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 means authorities can request encryption keys (passwords) from you and you can't say no.

Investigatory Powers Act 2016 literally nicknamed Snoopers' Charter. Means ISPs keep all your traffic for minimum a year, police are given access to it, but politicians are exempt and need a warrant to have their data viewed?!?!?

UK police have been rolling out Live Facial Recognition in London and Wales for the last few years. Seven new regions are being added. 10 new vans coming in.

Supermarkets are using facial recognition to keep a database of people they deem criminals.

UK tried to make Apple put in a backdoor to its encrypted storage. Apple removed the ability for UK citizens to use that feature.

Online Safety Act forced online services to implement age verification for "adult" content. Many niche forums closed down because they would face large fines and jail time if they didn't comply. Larger businesses offloaded this requirement onto third party companies so now if you want to see "adult" content online you need to share your face or bank details or government ID with a random third party likely from a different country.

None of the major political parties care about digital rights and in fact want MORE surveillance.

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3. grepno+gU[view] [source] 2025-08-13 16:15:47
>>raspyb+wx
Those 'niche' forums you mention are explicitly excluded from the Act.

Apple made the change to advanced security in advance of the bill being finalised, now the government has gone in another direction.

All the online safety act does is implement online the law as it stands IRL. British folk have been using the same ID verification systems to validate identity for nightclub admission, passport applications, driving licence applications, benefits claims, state pension claims, disclosure and barring checks, tax filings, mortgage deeds, security clearances, job applications, and court filings since 2016.

All the reaction is just pearl clutching - 5 million checks a day are being performed, the law itself is wildly popular with 70% support amongst adults after implementation.

There are three levels of checks - IAL1 (self-asserted, low confidence), IAL2 (remote or physical proof of identity), and IAL3 (rigorous proof with biometric and physical presence requirements).

IPA 2016 affords police access to your domain history, not content history, provided police can obtain a warrant from a senior High Court Judge. The box which stores the data is at ISP level and is easily circumvented with a VPN, or simply not using your ISP's DNS servers.

IPA 2016 doesn't exempt politicians from surveillance. It includes specific provisions for heightened safeguards when intercepting their communications. The Act establishes a "triple-lock" system for warrants targeting members of a relevant legislature, requiring approval from the Secretary of State, a Judicial Commissioner, and the Prime Minister. This heightened scrutiny is in recognition of the sensitivity involved in surveilling politicians, particularly given the surveillance of Northern Irish politicians and others in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, and 80s.

Part III of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (in force 1 October 2007), and Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000 provides powers over encryption keys/passwords etc. Section 49, RIPA can be used to force decryption, Section 51 to supply keys or passwords. These are identical to powers the police have IRL over safes, deposit boxes etcetera, and the penalty for non-compliance is identical.

You cannot use encryption or passwords to evade legal searches with a scope determined by a court on the basis of evidence of probable cause shown to the court by the entity requesting the search. A warrant from the High Court is required for each use.

Notable cases:-

- Blue chip hacking scandal - corrupt private investigators were illegally obtaining private information on behalf of blue chip companies.

- Phone hacking scandal - corrupt private investigators were illegally hacking voice mail on behalf of newspapers.

- Founder of an ISP using his position to illegally intercept communications and use them for blackmail.

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4. jadams+Vc1[view] [source] 2025-08-13 17:50:21
>>grepno+gU
> Those 'niche' forums you mention are explicitly excluded from the Act.

No, they are not.

> Our research indicates that over 100,000 online services are likely to be in scope of the Online Safety Act – from the largest social media platforms to the smallest community forum. We know that new regulation can create uncertainty – particularly for small organisations that may be run on a part time or voluntary basis.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/illegal-and-harmful-c...

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5. mytail+gg1[view] [source] 2025-08-13 18:05:32
>>jadams+Vc1
Yes, they are in scope but a "small community forum" has nothing to do but to fill and keep a few self-assessments just in case. There is no requirement to implement age verification across the board (hence why current official guidelines target only porn sites in relation to age verification).
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6. jadams+ij1[view] [source] 2025-08-13 18:19:54
>>mytail+gg1
> a few self-assessments just in case

Ah right, just a couple of forms how bad can it possi...

> Step 1: identify the 17 kinds of priority illegal content that need to be separately assessed

lol.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/illegal-and-harmful-c...

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7. grepno+Vm1[view] [source] 2025-08-13 18:39:21
>>jadams+ij1
>identify the 17 kinds of priority illegal content that need to be separately assessed

If you're a site with lots of child users, or if your site holds pornography.

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