zlacker

[return to "Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England"]
1. mytail+Xr[view] [source] 2025-08-13 14:07:22
>>amarch+(OP)
In itself this is a storm in a teacup.

The important question, only important question IMHO, is how they handle positives. Do they go all guns blazing and arrest the person on the spot? Or do they use a restrained approach and first nicely ask the person if they have any ID, etc? That's the important bit.

◧◩
2. cmcale+5w[view] [source] 2025-08-13 14:27:31
>>mytail+Xr
Then what happens if you don't have ID on you (which, for now, is entirely legal in the UK)? What if you're hours from home? Do you then need to completely cancel your day to spend it with the cops instead satisfy some shit algorithm that misidentified you as some known threat? What if you refuse to cooperate because you have better things to do than waste your time with the police? I'm sure that'll go well for you.

What if your child falls victim to a false identification, and then given that children are far less likely to have some form of ID on them than adults, they're stuck for much longer?

Do you trust the British police to take good care of your child? Or will they strip-search her and threaten her with arrest like they did with the then-15-year-old Child Q because they decided that she "smelled of weed"?

Do you really want more unnecessary interactions with the police for yourself or those you care about when your "suspicious behaviour" was having an algorithm judge that your face looked like someone else's?

◧◩◪
3. mytail+yy[view] [source] 2025-08-13 14:39:12
>>cmcale+5w
What happens when a police constable thinks they recognise you from evidence they have in an investigation or a wanted person notice?

This is nothing new. It is all about what is reasonable in the circumstances.

◧◩◪◨
4. southe+VI[view] [source] 2025-08-13 15:25:09
>>mytail+yy
Again worth mentioning something I've mentioned in other comments, and it's enormously obvious: There's a massive differene between unluckily being misindentified by some random copper who needs to get his memory or eyesight checked, and the percentage of false positives that's nearly guaranteed from a mass digital facial rec surviellance system working around the clock on categorizing millions of faces all over the country. The first is a bit of bad luck, the second will likely become pervasive, systemic and lead to assorted other shit consequences for many people being cross-checked and categorized in all kinds of insidiuous ways
◧◩◪◨⬒
5. mytail+QK[view] [source] 2025-08-13 15:33:31
>>southe+VI
You raise a good point that if the system wrongly ID you once it means that you're probably liable to be flagged every time you walk past one of those vans...
[go to top]