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>>tokai+(OP)
God fucking damn it not again

This is, what, the fifth time in ten years they try to pass shit like this?

>>isopro+ke
As Juncker, ex president of European Commision said, you keep trying till it passes at some point. Good luck revoking it later…

>>mantas+Ue
Ah, the marvels of modern democracy. No serious way to enact change, politicians still do whatever the hell they want, and we still believe that voting for someone else will change things.

It’ll soon be like the UK, that if you campaign against this kinda stuff, the party in power publicly calls you a paedophile. Because only people with something to hide want privacy.

Privacy is a losing proposition. Governments have the perfect trojan horse (child safety) so it’s only a matter of time before massive surveillance is the norm.

>>uncirc+uf
No serious way to enact change? That's not true at all.

>>myacco+Lp1
How exactly are you going to repeal ChatControl or ProtectEU when the same people who lobbied for these proposals/laws are the ones who would have to repeal it? Ursula survived a no confidence vote just a month ago.

>>nicksl+GD1
It's not over yet. We can still fight it.

I don't think democracy is perfect, especially in this case. But I come from a very regulated country, and have lived in countries with far less regulation. The comfort that comes knowing that my food is somewhat safe to eat, that I have access to healthcare, that most workers have good working condition with lots of holiday. This all came from regulation and democracy, and it's great. I don't think mistrust of institutions and democracy is the way to go.

>>myacco+mF4
It's not over but sorry - they have lost all my trust. With governments like these who needs enemies?

>>nicksl+8H4
There's absolutely reason to lose faith in the system, I'm just as guilty of that. At the same time, it has helped me to know that in many parts of the world there's been slides into authoritarianism, and in cases where there's been strong push-back its been possible to reverse it. It's when there's no push back that it becomes worse.

Objectively, it's still possible to fight it and democracy is still a good venture for making improvements.

>>myacco+CO4
Applied modern democracy and theoretical democracy are two different things. But yes, we should strive to get to a better version of democracy. Instead of just saying democracy BAD.