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>>madars+(OP)
I just installed Graphene on a new pixel. I've only used it for two days, but I got that same feeling of "finding buried treasure in your backyard" I got when I first installed Linux in 1999. I can't believe this amazing software is free in all senses of the word. It is a TON of work and they got so much right. The security and usability settings give all the grainular control I've known was possible and wanted for a long time.

I see some core team on this thread, so just wanted to say THANK YOU! Awesome job! Keep fighting for the users!

I'm totally the wrong person to offer recommendations on mobile, but so far it works very well for me, but then, I use almost no third party apps, and none of them are Play store only. My only complaint is the hardware (outside of their control).

>>jrexil+LE
> I can't believe this amazing software is free in all senses of the word.

I wish that were true, but if you delete the 100s of binary blobs (many with effectively root access) copied from a stock donor vendor partition the phone won't function at all.

There is no such thing as a fully open source and user controlled Android device today.

>>lrvick+K21
As opposed to using what, hand gestures? There is simply no production ready hardware with non-proprietary software at all.

>>gf000+lp1
People go through all sorts of weird mental gymnastics about this. The FSF at one point took the position that binary blobs were cool so long as they could not be upgraded, because then you could pretend they weren't software at all, but just part of the wiring. I've seen this odd line of thought attributed to RMS himself, but here's an FSF statement, from when he was running it: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/task2-openmoko