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1. ahartm+e5[view] [source] 2025-06-28 08:51:46
>>ahmetc+(OP)
Why though, what does it achieve? Do they want to make sure that there will be terrorists / freedom fighters in the future so that they have a reason not to negotiate? Because they expect to "win" if violence continues?
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2. perlge+L9[view] [source] 2025-06-28 09:57:23
>>ahartm+e5
From Israel's perspective, Palestinians are a problem. Long term, they have a few options:

1) Give them their own state. This is difficult for quite many reasons, and Israel (by which I mean the current government) doesn't want that

2) Give them full citizenship rights equal to Israel's citizens, make sure they have a proper minority representation, and let them participate in the regular political processes. The current government certainly doesn't want that, and I have no idea what part of the Palestinians would want that.

3) Continue to treat them as sub-human, and deal with the consequences of the hatred that fosters. That seems to have been the "strategy" before October last year.

4) Try to exterminate or exile them, or at least decimating them to such an extend that the problem becomes smaller.

Since 1) and 2) are (again, from the perspective of Isreal's government) undesirable, and 3) has stopped working, 4) seems to be their current strategy.

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3. rgblam+ub[view] [source] 2025-06-28 10:21:59
>>perlge+L9
>Give them full citizenship rights equal to Israel's citizens, make sure they have a proper minority representation

As the Palestinians are the majority, the Jewish Israelis would become a minority in terms of citizens and votes. This is very much akin to Apartheid South Africa, where a minority ethnic group rules over the rest of the population.

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4. yoavm+ys[view] [source] 2025-06-28 13:45:45
>>rgblam+ub
The White minority in South Africa were around 15% of the population, while Jews and Palestinians in Israel & Palestine seem to be much more around a 50%-50% split.
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5. rgblam+J85[view] [source] 2025-06-30 12:52:43
>>yoavm+ys
Yes, and I should have clarified that the Palestinian majority is a lot slimmer than was the case in South Africa.

Although there remains the case of 700,000 Palestinian refugees who (in the hypothetical scenario of a unified state) would tilt the balance further if allowed to return to their/their parents homes or given property as compensation for repossessed homes.

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