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1. ahartm+e5[view] [source] 2025-06-28 08:51:46
>>ahmetc+(OP)
Why though, what does it achieve? Do they want to make sure that there will be terrorists / freedom fighters in the future so that they have a reason not to negotiate? Because they expect to "win" if violence continues?
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2. perlge+L9[view] [source] 2025-06-28 09:57:23
>>ahartm+e5
From Israel's perspective, Palestinians are a problem. Long term, they have a few options:

1) Give them their own state. This is difficult for quite many reasons, and Israel (by which I mean the current government) doesn't want that

2) Give them full citizenship rights equal to Israel's citizens, make sure they have a proper minority representation, and let them participate in the regular political processes. The current government certainly doesn't want that, and I have no idea what part of the Palestinians would want that.

3) Continue to treat them as sub-human, and deal with the consequences of the hatred that fosters. That seems to have been the "strategy" before October last year.

4) Try to exterminate or exile them, or at least decimating them to such an extend that the problem becomes smaller.

Since 1) and 2) are (again, from the perspective of Isreal's government) undesirable, and 3) has stopped working, 4) seems to be their current strategy.

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3. msgode+6b[view] [source] 2025-06-28 10:17:32
>>perlge+L9
You'd think given Israel's history they'd do everything they could to not make 4) acceptable.
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4. ndiddy+iy[view] [source] 2025-06-28 14:39:08
>>msgode+6b
Many of the Zionists viewed the Holocaust as teaching that the Jewish people need a state of their own, no matter what it takes or how many people they have to kill. They viewed the European Jews who had died in the Holocaust as weak, passive cowards who had "allowed" the Holocaust to happen, and went like sheep to their slaughter (ignoring the Warsaw Uprising, and all of the underground Jewish resistance movements). I think Israel's current actions reflect this viewpoint.
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