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>>dale_h+(OP)
I found it hard to reconcile his charming and witty comic strips with some of the ugly things he wrote elsewhere. I would never usually throw a book away, but I made an exception for one of his books, because I didn't want anyone to see it on my bookshelf and I didn't want to give to anyone else.

>>hermit+US
People aren’t just one thing. They can be right about one thing and wrong about other things.

>>2muchc+Ue1
We already know that.

The more interesting question is: what do we do with the art of people who were revealed to be terrible? I first saw people wrestle with this idea for Michael Jackson and recently it has been a big issue related to Kanye West.

>>thephy+Oh1
Growing up as a devout religious kid in the 80s, it was always understood in my household that rock stars were lascivious, immoral sex crazies and that Hollywood was a den of heathen propaganda. Nevertheless, we still listened to (some) music and watched (some) movies.

I'm mostly out of that environment now, but occasionally put myself in those shoes again and think how odd it would seem to me that people look up to and expect moral righteousness from these people.

>>losved+oo1
I think most people recognize more states that 'moral righteousness' and 'immoral heathen'. I don't expect, e.g. christian bale to spend his life volunteering in a food pantry and washing prisoner's feet.

I do expect him not to rape, murder, commit fraud, and so on.

One of the things I occasionally notice about conversations in this area is that some people care more about actions that hurt people than property.

If our hyopthetical rockstar trashes a hotel room, wrecks his car and then has a heart attack from cocaine, that might be judged differently than one that joins the local nazi party and attempts to murder someone.

>>wredco+pp1
However if a rockstar were to protest peacefully and shout “Black Lives Matters” then throw a rock through a police car window..

…I’d assume that would be judged differently than an attempted murder and trashing a hotel room.

The question is what would be the judgement for all three?

>>jollof+ku1
I'm genuinely confused what the question is.

Shouting "black lives matter" at a protest is a fairly minor virtuous action. Throwing a rock at a police car is a pretty minor sin.

Attempted murder is generally a pretty major sin, modulo quibbles about legal vs moral definitions of murder.