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1. heyden+82[view] [source] 2025-01-21 22:40:58
>>tedsan+(OP)
~$125B per year would be 2-3% of all domestic investment. It's similar in scale to the GDP of a small middle income country.

If the electric grid — particularly the interconnection queue — is already the bottleneck to data center deployment, is something on this scale even close to possible? If it's a rationalized policy framework (big if!), I would guess there's some major permitting reform announcement coming soon.

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2. ericcu+h3[view] [source] 2025-01-21 22:44:58
>>heyden+82
watching the press conference and Onsite power production were mentioned. I assume this means SMRs and solar.
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3. dhx+Zs[view] [source] 2025-01-22 01:36:50
>>ericcu+h3
Hasn't the US decided to prefer nuclear and fossil fuels (most expensive generation methods) over renewables (least expensive generation methods)?[1][2]

I doubt the US choice of energy generation is ideological as much a practicality. China absolutely dominates renewables with 80% of solar PV modules manufactured in China and 95% of wafers manufactured in China.[3] China installed a world record 277GW of new solar PV generation in 2024 which was a 45% year-on-year increase.[4] By contract, the US only installed ~1/10th this capacity in 2024 with only 14GW of solar PV generation installed in the first half of 2024.[5]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source

[2] https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/lcoe-and-valu...

[3] https://www.iea.org/reports/advancing-clean-technology-manuf...

[4] https://www.pv-magazine.com/2025/01/21/china-hits-277-17-gw-...

[5] https://www.energy.gov/eere/solar/quarterly-solar-industry-u...

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4. margor+8g1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 09:12:44
>>dhx+Zs
> Hasn't the US decided to prefer nuclear and fossil fuels (most expensive generation methods) over renewables (least expensive generation methods)?[1][2]

This completely ignores storage and the ability to control the output depending on needs. Instead of LCOE the LFSCOE number makes much more sense in practical terms.

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