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1. philip+b8[view] [source] 2024-12-02 14:56:36
>>sebg+(OP)
Tim Wendelboe (perhaps the greatest coffee roaster) has been talking about this on his latest Q&A podcast. A rigmarole for exports plus climate change are causing issues.

He does a two-episode deep dive into the Kenyan coffee market here, which is worth a listen: https://timwendelboe.no/2024/03/inside-kenyas-coffee-market-...

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2. pvg+Pb[view] [source] 2024-12-02 15:18:20
>>philip+b8
I know nothing about coffee roasting but the level of wankery on that site is an absolute delight. Makes me wonder if this is deliberate

https://timwendelboe.no/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/T_Wendelb...

https://www.gottahaverockandroll.com/ItemImages/000025/jul18...

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3. goosej+uw[view] [source] 2024-12-02 17:28:35
>>pvg+Pb
Of all the speciality foods, wine is the most pretentious. Coffee isn't far behind.
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4. debacl+4B[view] [source] 2024-12-02 17:58:31
>>goosej+uw
There's different varieties of coffee wanker.

1. There's the technical wanker, who has the best tools and might roast their own beans even, but generally still drinks shite coffee.

2+3. There's the Keurig wankers and the anti-Keurig wankers, one of whom thinks they're drinking good coffee and one of whom can't stand that someone is enjoying something they don't.

4. There's the free trade wankers, who want beans from a plantation in Costa Rica owned by someone from Texas.

5. There's the roast alchemy wankers, who believe that you need to overcomplicate the roasting process as much as possible in order to eek out that 2.9% acidic roast flavor profile at exactly 203.4 degrees.

Buy good but cheap beans from a semi-local roaster, and don't let them get too old. Bam, you'll have coffee better than 99% of people.

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5. roflye+yE[view] [source] 2024-12-02 18:21:05
>>debacl+4B
Most local roasters really are garbage, though. Telling people to do this will make sure that people miss out on a lot of what "coffee can be" and will end up with something that is probably better than the worst of the worst coffee, but still tastes pretty awful in comparison to a great coffee roasted adequately.

"need to drink it fresh" is a red flag about the roast, usually, unless you really do prefer something fairly dark. Light roasted coffee should be let to gas off for at least a few weeks.

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6. debacl+AM[view] [source] 2024-12-02 19:08:51
>>roflye+yE
True. The most popular local bean in my area tastes like battery acid, but there's a roaster about 20 minutes from me who is only ~20% more expensive than Lavazza (my go to large roaster) who produces a variety of good roasts.

Not sure on the off gassing comment, I drink what I think tastes good. Espresso pretty much exclusively, lightly fruity, low acid, with a rich sip and a non-bitter aftertaste.

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7. terrib+wl1[view] [source] 2024-12-02 23:22:29
>>debacl+AM
Lavazza seems to get a lot of hate on coffee snob forums, but they make consistently decent coffee that's not burnt to ashes or weirdly acidic.
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8. roflye+5R1[view] [source] 2024-12-03 06:12:17
>>terrib+wl1
Coffee is acidic - it has acidity.
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