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>>southe+(OP)
If you want to see what's been "moderated" away from you on Hacker News:

Click your username at the upper right:

Turn on "showdead": showdead: yes. (defaults to "no")

There are a number of dead posts in this thread. I'd post some here (some of which don't appear to violate any HN guidelines, I'll note), but probably those same moderators would kill this one, too.

>>Albert+dY
HN allows everyone with sufficient karma to vouch for dead comments (or flag comments), I suspect most of the comment-level moderation you see is crowdsourced to fellow commenters; a still-dead comment means most of those who see choose to keep it dead.

HN is awesome because of the rules and moderation (including bans); any unmoderated forum devolves into a cesspit; and it only takes a surprisingly few bad apples to ruin a community.

>>sangno+501
The HN crowd like reddit leans massively progressive/democratic. As such any thinking outside normal or contrarian views are massively suppressed. Classic contrarian (to HN) around WFH, Capitalism, Elon Musk, Tesla, Regulation is downvoted and even flagged

>>zooq_a+T51
The HN crowd is far right but they would never admit it. Most people are unaware of how political parties shift in composition and ideology over the decades.

The contemporary American software engineer resembles the professional class Reagan Republicans who dominated the suburbs in the 80's and 90's.

>>hnpoli+x61
This observation is always highlighted by the absurdity of american politics when they describe candidates like Joe Biden as "far left" when on the european political spectrum (or even an absolute one, if such a thing exists) he'd almost certainly be on the right.

>>JohnMa+881
>This observation is always highlighted by the absurdity of american politics when they describe candidates like Joe Biden as "far left"

Joe Biden is by all accounts, center-left. However, the parent comment also describes the "HN crowd" as far-right. What probably is actually happening is that America is extremely polarized, where any side you don't agree with has the "far-[left/right]" label slapped on.

>>gruez+i91
I disagree with your characterization of why I called the HN crowd, or technology professionals, far right. Having read my God how many comments, articles, tweets etc over the years. I see extremely conservative policy positions. No better example than asking a software engineer, developer VC there opinions on whether "gig" workers should be treated as full time employees with benefits, unionization etc.

The former use technology to do things economically to workers we haven't seen since Upton Sinclair's The Jungle. Like preventing a driver from getting new deliveries if those 10 minutes put him over 1 hour of work. It's robber barron extreme right wing economic policy.

>>hnpoli+qg1
>No better example than asking a software engineer, developer VC there opinions on whether "gig" workers should be treated as full time employees with benefits, unionization etc.

And that's a "far right" position? So far as I can tell, even in europe, in most jurisdictions gig workers are treated as contractors rather than employees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gig_worker#Europe

>>gruez+6j1
I mean these meanings aren't concrete. Left vs right etc. But historically it was a far right wing position to find ways to exploit labor for profit. The tech industry uses their skill set to accomplish this with algorithms.

>>hnpoli+xk1
>But historically it was a far right wing position to find ways to exploit labor for profit

and historically LGBT rights were far left positions. That doesn't mean they're far left positions today. Moreover if being pro-capital (as opposed to being labor) is "far right", then is being pro-labor "far left"? Is there even a "centrist" or non "far-left/right" position?