Clojure Desktop UI Framework

>>duckte+(OP)
I'm sure Clojure is a great language for some tasks...

But, looking at the examples (picked the Wordle one since I know that game): https://github.com/HumbleUI/HumbleUI/blob/main/dev/examples/...

I find it extremely hard to read. Even small snippets, say line 56 to 74 which define this "color", "merge-colors" and "colors"... then the "field" one lines 76 to 117 is even harder.

is it more natural read for people familiar with writing functional programs? (am I permanently "broken" due to my familiarity with imperative programing?)

I wonder what the same Wordle example would look like in, say pure Flutter.

Also wonder how would that code look with external dependencies (say hitting a server to get the word of the day), and navigation (with maintaining state in between those pages)

>>kpw94+4h7
"is it more natural read for people familiar with writing functional programs? (am I permanently "broken" due to my familiarity with imperative programing?)"

As just one person who has written a great deal of functional code, it reads well to me. I think because I am used to reading it "inside out"? Reading lisp-likes is probably helpful.

Take 'color' for example. It opens with a 'cond', with three branches. First branch is if the idx-th position in word is the same as letter, return green. Second branch is if the word includes the latter at all, yellow. Otherwise we're grey.

That took me a few seconds to grok. Just one anecdote for you. Don't think you're broken but reading/writing this kind of code even a little bit will change the way you see code IMO.

>>trento+Gh7
> It opens with a 'cond', with three branches. First branch is if the idx-th position in word is the same as letter, return green. Second branch is if the word includes the letter at all, yellow.

This is a tangent, but I've been thinking about how I feel when the conditions of an if-else ladder rely on the order they're listed in.

This is an example; if you swapped the order of those branches around, the coloration would become incorrect.

I'm a little happier when the conditions are described completely, such that swapping the order of the checks doesn't change which of them evaluate false or true, but it's also true that that can add quite a bit of complexity over an order-sensitive set of conditions.

Thoughts?

>>thauma+tW7
You could do something like this in Clojure:

    (first (filter identity
                   [(and (condition-three) (action-three))
                    (and (condition-one) (action-one))
                    (and (condition-four) (action-four))
                    (and (condition-two) (action-two))]))

And you could write a macro to do it with nice syntax. A bit more work and you could parallelize it.

You probably wouldn't want to most of the time, but if the conditions are slow to test but otherwise inexpensive, it might be a useful optimization.

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