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1. codema+p6[view] [source] 2024-06-21 19:56:26
>>voisin+(OP)
This sounds silly.

70% is ~5.4% yearly, 40% is 3.4% growth yearly. Seems, fine?

These are incredibly reasonable growth rates. Am I missing something?

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2. verteu+802[view] [source] 2024-06-22 17:04:45
>>codema+p6
You are missing that Spain's economy is not growing like the USA's.

Spanish wages grew only 2.7%/yr L10Y [1], and its nominal GDP/capita looks completely flat [2].

This explains why the city is affordable for international tourists but not locals. Regardless, a high "tourist tax" would probably be better for their economy than an outright ban.

[1] https://www.ine.es/jaxiT3/Tabla.htm?t=59150

[2] Compare https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=spain+gdp+per+capita+10... vs https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=USA+gdp+per+capita+10+y...

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3. codema+HG6[view] [source] 2024-06-24 17:07:57
>>verteu+802
At 2.7% that's 2.7% and .7% growth faster than wages.

Let's look at the bay's wage growth[0]: 11% (or ~1%/yr) from 2010-2020, but they removed CPI-U inflation[1], so it's something higher (annual was ~1-3% in that time period). Which puts the bay area housing at 5%+ higher growth, 2x to 7x worse than Spain.

So, once again - Spain is doing well when it comes to housing prices. Tourism frustrates locals because they think it's increased their housing costs wildly - but in fact it's because their economy is switching to a tourist economy unless they find an industry to grow.

[0]: https://bayareaequityatlas.org/indicators/income-growth?year... [1]: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUUR0000SA0&output_view=pct_...

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