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1. mrtksn+F6[view] [source] 2024-06-13 19:19:46
>>anigbr+(OP)
How isn't "the West" shooting themselves in the feet with these sanctions when Russia is able to get the war stuff through Turkey/Kyrgyzstan etc when not able to buy and sell civilians stuff?

Also, the Dollar and Euro can have effect on the Russian economy and tracked for intelligence only if they are used.

I wonder if this will be considered a great blunder, looking back in few years.

Forcing worlds most energy and minerals rich country doing business with most industry rich country, what could go wrong?

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2. JumpCr+Y6[view] [source] 2024-06-13 19:21:16
>>mrtksn+F6
> How isn't "the west" shooting themselves in the feet with these sanctions

Same way Britain wasn’t shooting itself in the foot blockading Nazi Germany, or the West by refusing to trade with the USSR.

> Forcing worlds most energy and minerals rich country doing business with most industry rich country, what could go wrong?

Post-Soviet Russia as an independent power has been an unmitigated disaster. China is America’s geopolitical rival, but at least it’s rational. Moscow as a Chinese suzerainty is likely a better configuration than it as a sovereign power.

(Also, it’s clear China isn’t willing to let its financial system be sanctioned simply to trade with the likes of Russia.)

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3. mrtksn+p7[view] [source] 2024-06-13 19:24:10
>>JumpCr+Y6
See, they don't actually block anybody but themselves. The Russians simply get their stuff from others.
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4. ajuc+O7[view] [source] 2024-06-13 19:26:46
>>mrtksn+p7
With markup. That slows down the economy and makes everything more expansive. Whcih makes the economy not competetive on the international market. Keep it that way for a few decades and you get North Korea.
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5. mrtksn+z9[view] [source] 2024-06-13 19:35:21
>>ajuc+O7
A few decades of war isn't helping anybody. Unlike the Russia, western politics shift because everything in the west is also getting expensive. Europe has seen this already.
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6. ajuc+Lv[view] [source] 2024-06-13 21:32:14
>>mrtksn+z9
Inflation in EU is like 2%?
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7. mrtksn+Ky[view] [source] 2024-06-13 21:49:53
>>ajuc+Lv
Sure that's the official figure but people are annoyed that everything is %50 to %200 more expensive compared to 2-3 years ago without having their income growing at the same pace. This is because people feel the inflation different ways because different classes consume different stuff and the average doesn't mean much when you have your rent doubled and the food becoming %50 more expensive.
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8. ajuc+841[view] [source] 2024-06-14 03:01:55
>>mrtksn+Ky
If you believe the figures from totalitarian dictatorships but think that EU figures are faked I really can't help you :)
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9. mrtksn+SG1[view] [source] 2024-06-14 10:54:33
>>ajuc+841
No I don't suggest that at all. That's a strawman argument right there.
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