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1. Button+7J[view] [source] 2024-05-18 01:52:45
>>fnbr+(OP)
So part of their compensation for working is equity, and when they leave thay have to sign an additional agreement in order to keep their previously earned compensation? How is this legal? Mine as well tell them they have to give all their money back too.

What's the consideration for this contract?

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2. throwa+ON[view] [source] 2024-05-18 03:08:52
>>Button+7J
That OpenAI are institutionally unethical. That such a young company can be become rotten so quickly can only be due to leadership instruction or leadership failure.
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3. smt88+2T[view] [source] 2024-05-18 04:56:44
>>throwa+ON
Look at Sam Altman's career and tweets. He's a clown at best, and at worst he's a manipulative crook who only cares about his own enrichment and uses pro-social ideas to give himself a veneer of trustworthiness.
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4. orland+xU[view] [source] 2024-05-18 05:27:14
>>smt88+2T
Awfully familiar to the other South-African emerald mine inheritor tech mogul.
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5. treme+l41[view] [source] 2024-05-18 08:02:19
>>orland+xU
Please. Elon's track record to take tesla from concept car stage to current mass production levels and building SpaceX from scratch is hardly comparable to Altman's track record.
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6. Techni+ze1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 10:41:48
>>treme+l41
SpaceX didn’t start from scratch. Their initial designs were based on NASA designs. Stop perpetuating the “genius engineer” myth around Elon Musk.
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7. KyleOn+0m1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 12:09:36
>>Techni+ze1
I feel like Steve Jobs also fits this category if we are going to talk about people who aren't really worthy of genius title and used other people's accomplishments to reach their goals.

We all know it as the engineers who made iPhone possible.

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8. 837204+nu1[view] [source] 2024-05-18 13:23:41
>>KyleOn+0m1
Someone far more deserving of the title, Dennis Ritchie, died a week after Jobs' stupidity caught up with him. So much attention to Jobs who didn't really deserve it, and so little to Dennis Ritchie who made such a profound impact on the tech world and society in general.
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9. thefau+y72[view] [source] 2024-05-18 19:13:46
>>837204+nu1
I think Ritchie's influence while significant is overblown and not entirely positive. I am not a fan of Steve Jobs, who had many reprehensible traits, but I find it ridiculous to dismiss his genius. Frankly, I find Jobs's ability to manipulate people more impressive than Ritchie's ability to manipulate machines.
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10. 837204+6u2[view] [source] 2024-05-18 22:35:27
>>thefau+y72
> not entirely positive

I don't know if he was responsible, but null-terminated strings has got to be one of the worst mistakes in computer history.

That said, how is the significance of C and Unix "overblown"?

I agree Jobs was brilliant at manipulating people, I don't agree that that should be celebrated.

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11. holler+Au2[view] [source] 2024-05-18 22:44:06
>>837204+6u2
The main reason C and Unix became widespread IMHO is not because they were better than the alternatives, but rather because AT&T distributed them with source code at no cost, and their motivation for doing that was not altruistic, but rather the need to obey a judicial decree or an agreement made at the end of an anti-trust court case under which IBM and AT&T were ordered not to enter each other's markets. I.e., AT&T was prohibited from selling computer hardware and software, so when they accidentally found themselves to be owners of some software that some universities and research labs wanted to use, they gave it away.

C and Unix weren't and aren't bad, but they are overestimated in comments on this site a lot. They weren't masterpieces. The Mac was a masterpiece IMHO. Credit for the Mac goes to Xerox PARC and to Engelbart's lab at Stanford Research Institute, but also to Jobs for recognizing the value of the work and leading the first implementation of it available to a large fraction of the population.

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