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>>fnbr+(OP)
Extra respect is due to Jan Leike, then:

https://x.com/janleike/status/1791498174659715494

>>thorum+Bu
i don’t think we need to respect these elite multi millionaires for not becoming even grander multi millionaires / billionaires

>>foolfo+3E
is having money morally wrong?

>>whimsi+TG
Depends on how you get it

>>r2_pil+WI
Exactly. There’s no ethical way to gain ownership of a billion dollars (there’s likely some dollar threshold way less than 1B where p(ethical_gains) can be approximated to 0)

A lot of people got screwed along the way

>>Andrew+pL
i think a lot of people have been able to become billionaires simply by building something that was initially significantly undervalued and then became very highly valued, no 'screwing'. there is such thing as a win-win and frankly these win-wins account for most albeit not all value creation in the world. you do not have to screw other people to get rich.

whether people should be able to hold on to that billion is a different question

>>whimsi+PP
I wouldn't know, I'm not a billionaire. But when you hear about Amazon warehouse workers peeing into bottles because they they don't have long enough bathroom breaks, or Walmart workers not having healthcare because they're intentionally scheduled for 39.5 hours, it's hard to see that anyone could get to a billion without screwing someone over. But like I said, I'm not a billionaire.

>>fragme+dV
Who did JK Rowling screw? (putting aside her recent social issues after she already became a billionaire)

Having these discussions in this current cultural moment is difficult. I'm no lover of billionaires, but to say that every billionaire screwed people over relies on esoteric interpretations of value and who produces it. These interpretations (like the labor-theory of value) are alien to the vast majority of people.