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>>Jimmc4+(OP)
It is easy to point to loopy theories around superalignment, p(doom), etc. But you don't have to be hopped up on sci-fi to oppose something like GPT-4o. Low-latency response time is fine. The faking of emotions and overt references to Her (along with the suspiciously-timed relaxation of pornographic generations) are not fine. I suspect Altman/Brockman/Murati intended for this thing to be dangerous for mentally unwell users, using the exact same logic as tobacco companies.

>>nickle+491
One could also say that therapists prey on lonely people who pay them to talk to them and seem like they’re genuinely interested in them, when the therapist wouldn’t bother having a connection with these people once they stop paying. Which I suppose is true from a certain point of view. But from another point of view, sometimes people feel like they don’t have close friends or family to talk to and need something, even if it’s not a genuine love or friendship.

>>bnralt+Dg1
This is implying that therapy is nothing more than someone to talk to; if that’s your experience with therapy, then you should get another therapist.

>>kettro+rh1
Evidence points in this direction, though.

Different methods of therapy appear to be equally effective despite having theoretical foundations which are conflicting with each other. The common aspect between different therapies seems to be "having someone to talk to", so I'm inclined to believe that really is what's behind the success.

>>baobab+Xi1
Having someone to talk to, who is somewhat emotionally intelligent, who doesn't have strong biases against you, and so on...

If you are fortunate, you have people like that in your immediate circle, but increasingly few people do.

>>pphysc+Hl1
What part of the therapist training regimen tests for emotional intelligence? What test do they use to measure this?

>>Americ+Vm1
They don't attempt to measure it, but they do teach approaches like "unconditional positive regard" and other techniques that allow a practitioner to demonstrate (or at least seem to demonstrate) a higher level of emotional intelligence.

A big part of therapy is also rapport. Many people go through many therapist before finding one that works for them. In part, you can think of this as the market performing the assessment your'e referring to.

>>pdabba+8p1
They don’t attempt to measure it because it not something that’s even properly defined with any rigour. Any person who seriously uses the phrase is going to have their own completely individual idea of what it means, and there’s no reason the think any therapist would have this nebulous quality, or even that their idea of what it means has any similarity to your idea of what it means.

>>Americ+8D1
I suppose I agree — "emotional intelligence" is probably not the word I would have used, writing on a blank slate. I think the idea is better captured in the concept of rapport, which is really just a function of clients' subjective experience working with a given therapist. A therapist can learn techniques to increase the chances of establishing a good rapport with a given client, but I'd be inclined to leave it at that.