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>>whoish+(OP)
I thought California required job listings to provide pay ranges.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...

>3) An employer with 15 or more employees shall include the pay scale for a position in any job posting.

>5) An employer with 15 or more employees that engages a third party to announce, post, publish, or otherwise make known a job posting shall provide the pay scale to the third party. The third party shall include the pay scale in the job posting.

Edit: wow, so many California/New York City/Washington/Colorado job listings that are omitting the legally required pay ranges

Edit 2: Also see #29 and #34 below:

https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/california_equal_pay_act.htm

>>lotsof+Co
what’s the point, most companies just give a broad range like 200k-600k which makes the whole exercise pointless.

>>sashan+HQ
The bottom of the range, and the movement of the bottom of the range, provides necessary information to shed light on the movement of supply and demand.

>>lotsof+KX
You’re far better off just using levels.fyi which is pretty accurate for big companies like Apple. According to levels ICT4 varies from 260k to 440k which I’m willing to bet is a narrower band than anything Apple will provide.

>>sashan+J21
Information from the business itself is more reliable than information from a third party website. It is also more useful to the business’s existing employees.

Also, the third party website can use the information from official job listings to provide the most accurate and sourced data.

>>lotsof+T61
If levels.fyi used info from job listings, it would end up completely useless like the pay ranges companies post.

The whole reason it works, is because it does not use “official data.”

>>sashan+Al2
It’s possible to track two different things.

Movement of the bottom of the range and movement of the reported prices of cleared transactions.

The former information is credible and useful for looking at long term supply and demand trends.

The latter information is useful for negotiating individual compensation.