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1. Laaas+19[view] [source] 2024-04-29 15:38:45
>>elikog+(OP)
I think it’s important to make clear that the letter is mostly bogus and almost libelous.

Check into any one claim, and you’ll find it’s not the entire story.

This however is true:

> The Foundation board has unrepresentative composition relative to the community because, due to our count, all current members are cisgender, white-passing, men, one of whom has done military service, and one other (Eelco) likely relies on undisclosed military-tech work.

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2. retool+Ob[view] [source] 2024-04-29 15:51:08
>>Laaas+19
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3. giraff+jd[view] [source] 2024-04-29 15:57:20
>>retool+Ob
How is it slanderous to point out the board composition is not representative of the community. Seriously walk me through this one.
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4. retool+bg[view] [source] 2024-04-29 16:08:15
>>giraff+jd
I don't believe that the boards composition for engineering and technological organizations or projects should be chosen based on the results of measuring skulls, genetics or what partners they openly prefer for sexual intercourse, that seems unrelated to the work.

The slander against the board is quite obvious and I believe you're being disingenuous.

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5. giraff+yh[view] [source] 2024-04-29 16:13:45
>>retool+bg
I was being sincere. I think it's reasonable to expect a governing board to be at least partially representative of the users & contributors of the project. It seems extremely presumptuous at best to tell people their lives & experiences are not relevant to the work they do, and that they are wrong to want people with similar experiences acting in leadership.

So no, I still can't see slander. What is obvious to you is not apparent to me at all so please walk me through it.

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6. retool+Xr[view] [source] 2024-04-29 16:53:25
>>giraff+yh
I understand your position, but I respectfully disagree. Selecting leadership based on immutable characteristics like race, gender or sexuality rather than merit and contributions is misguided and prejudiced, even if motivated by a desire for representation.

The current leaders' "lives & experiences" very much inform their work - their experience contributing to and building the project. What's irrelevant and presumptuous is assuming their race, gender, etc. make them unfit or that "people with similar experiences" (i.e. the same demographics) would necessarily lead better. The slander is in attacking and attempting to de-legitimize the board not based on their actions or competence, but on their identities. That's textbook ad hominem.

Inclusion means welcoming people of all backgrounds, not enforcing demographic quotas or judging people's fitness based on identity rather than ability. If you have substantive concerns about board decisions or project direction, by all means raise them. But leave identity politics out of it and focus on the issues. Presuming leaders can't serve the community well because of innate traits is its own form of prejudice.

The only real criticism of concern was the military contracts and a conflict of interest, which I believe is valid and needs discussion, the rest just seems like personal attacks meant to further some unrelated agenda.

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