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1. addict+J6[view] [source] 2024-03-23 02:39:20
>>wut42+(OP)
There are different incidents here.

The first one where the police uploaded videos and wanted viewer information is absolutely egregious and makes me wonder how a court could authorize that.

The next one, which I didn’t fully understand, but appeared to be in response to a swatting incident where the culprit is believed to have watched a specific camera livestream and the police provided a lot of narrowing details (time period, certain other characteristics, etc) appears far more legitimate.

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2. godels+Zb[view] [source] 2024-03-23 03:52:38
>>addict+J6
I don't understand how either of these are remotely constitutional. They sure aren't what is in the spirit.

They asked for information about a video watched 30k times. Supposing every person watched that video 10 times AND supposing the target was one of the viewers (it really isn't clear that this is true), that's 2999 people who have had their rights violated to search for one. I believe Blackstone has something to say about this[0]. Literally 30x Blackstone's ratio, who heavily influenced the founding fathers.

I don't think any of this appears legitimate.

Edit: Ops [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone%27s_ratio

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3. mingus+kd[view] [source] 2024-03-23 04:10:21
>>godels+Zb
Cell phone tower data has been used for a decade now in pretty much the same way.

Did you happen to pass by a cell tower in a major city around the time a crime was committed? We all have.

Well, your IEMI was included in a cell tower dump. Probably dozens of times.

Did you happen to drive your car over any bridge in the Bay Area lately? Did a municipal vehicle pass you and catch your license plate with their ALPR camera?

Guess what? Your name went through a database of an LEO search if they wanted to find a perp for that time/location.

Privacy has been dead for a long time. The worst part is people don’t care.

The Snowden files changed nothing. If there was ever a point in history where people would have given up their cell phones for their civil liberties, that would have been the time to do it.

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4. jpc0+sx[view] [source] 2024-03-23 09:37:51
>>mingus+kd
There is a distinction I tend to make here.

If some person was able to pick me out from a lineup because they physically saw me then that wasn't private and privacy laws don't apply.

So for instance capturing my face on CCTV in a public place isn't a privacy violation, same with my license plate in a pulic place.

However what happens on my private property is a privacy violation if it is recorded without consent.

Certian information isn't private, and that being stored is fine. Where the line gets drawn is what's up for debate.

I surely would want my contact details and name saved by a company that I intend to do business with in either direction. However if they spam me with information I should be able to lodge an harrassment claim against them. It's not a privacy issue but a decency issue.

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5. chgs+iA[view] [source] 2024-03-23 10:22:31
>>jpc0+sx
> However what happens on my private property is a privacy violation if it is recorded without consent.

And the biggest enablers of violation are things like ring doorbells and dashcams. There is no comeback in my country, don’t know about the US.

Governmental and commercial cctv has checks and balances. Domestic just goes onto planet wide databases with no control.

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