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1. HarHar+vu1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 19:23:01
>>modele+(OP)
Any competent lawyer is going to get Musk on the stand reiterating his opinions about the danger of AI. If the tech really is dangerous then being more closed arguably is in the public's best interest, and this is certainly the reason OpenAI have previously given.

Not saying I agree that being closed source is in the public good, although one could certainly argue that accelerating the efforts of bad actors to catch up would not be a positive.

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2. nicce+1w1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 19:30:18
>>HarHar+vu1
> If the tech really is dangerous then being more closed arguably is in the public's best interest, and this is certainly the reason OpenAI have previously given.

Not really. It slows down like security over obscurity. It needs to be open that we know the real risks and we have the best information to combat it. Otherwise, someone who does the same in closed matter, has better chances to get advantage when misusing it.

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3. Feepin+9x1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 19:37:41
>>nicce+1w1
This only holds if defense outscales attack. It seems very likely that attack outscales defense to me with LLMs.
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4. nicce+hy1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 19:42:37
>>Feepin+9x1
Well then, isn’t the whole case about just denying the inevitable?

If OpenAI can do it, I would not say that that is very unlikely for someone else to do the same. Open or not. The best chance is still that we prepare with the best available information.

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5. pixl97+Jm3[view] [source] 2024-03-02 14:50:12
>>nicce+hy1
>denying the inevitable

I mean, you spend a lot of time in your own life denying the inevitable, humans spend a lot of time and effort avoiding their own personal extinction.

>The best chance is still

The best information we have now is if we create AGI/ASI at this time, we all die. The only winning move is not to play in that game.

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6. nicce+GK5[view] [source] 2024-03-03 17:00:07
>>pixl97+Jm3
> The best information we have now is if we create AGI/ASI at this time, we all die.

We can still unplug or turn off the things. We are still very faraway from the situation where AI has some factories and full supply chain to control and take physical control of the world.

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7. Feepin+nsa[view] [source] 2024-03-05 06:47:45
>>nicce+GK5
Meanwhile, every giant AI company: "yeah we're looking at robotics, obviously if we could embody these things and give them agency in the physical world that would be a great achievement"
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