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>>modele+(OP)
Allowing startups to begin as non-profits for tax benefits, only to 'flip' into profit-seeking ventures is a moral hazard, IMO. It risks damaging public trust in the non-profit sector as a whole. This lawsuit is important

>>therei+4H
I completely agree. AGI is an existential threat, but the real meat of this lawsuit is ensuring that you can't let founders have their cake and eat it like this. what's the point of a non-profit if they can simply pivot to making profit the second they have something of value? the answer is that there is none, besides dishonesty.

it's quite sad that the American regulatory system is in such disrepair that we could even get to this point. that it's not the government pulling OpenAI up on this bare-faced deception, it's a morally-questionable billionaire

>>permo-+IQ
There is no reliable evidence that AGI is an existential threat, nor that it is even achievable within our lifetimes. Current OpenAI products are useful and technically impressive but no one has shown that they represent steps towards a true AGI.

>>nradov+jU
There's plenty of reliable evidence. It's just not conclusive evidence. But a lot of people including AI researchers now think we are looking at AGI in a relatively short time with fairly high odds. AGI by the OpenAI economic-viability definition might not be far off at all; companies are trying very very hard to get humanoid robots going and that's the absolute most obvious way to make a lot of humans obsolete.

>>jprete+Bb1
None of that constitutes reliable evidence. Some of the comments you see from "AI researchers" are more like proclamations of religious faith than real scientific analysis.

“He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.”

Show me a robot that can snake out a plugged toilet. The people who believe that most jobs can be automated are ivory-tower academics and programmers who have never done any real work in their lives.

>>nradov+te1
yes it's in fact fantastic that mentally-stimulating jobs that provide social mobility are disappearing, and slavery-lite, mentally-gruelling service industry jobs are the future. people who haven't had to clean a strangers' shit out of a toilet should be ashamed of themselves and put to work at once.

honestly I'm not sure I've seen the bar set higher for "what's a threat?" than for AGI on Hacker News. the old adage of not being able to convince a man of something that is directly in opposition to him receiving his paycheck clearly remains true. gpt-4 should scare you enough, even if it's 1000 years from being AGI.