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1. peterc+w[view] [source] 2008-12-09 02:36:27
>>pg+(OP)
Other interesting data: http://top.searchyc.com/
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2. Alex39+M[view] [source] 2008-12-09 02:47:49
>>peterc+w
It's worth noting that most of the top submissions are actually really good, whereas on Reddit none of the top submissions are even remotely good.
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3. run4yo+h3[view] [source] 2008-12-09 05:51:54
>>Alex39+M
There was a time when reddit was very good. But then the noise came and it was game over.
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4. peterc+0n[view] [source] 2008-12-10 01:36:42
>>run4yo+h3
I know it's the alarmist thing to say, but it's starting here.

While there have been flurries of "poor" content accruing a decent set of points in the past, I'm now starting to see a lot of downvoting occurring. Previously, downvotes were used on spam, offensiveness, or flat out "wrong" comments - whereas now it appears to be an indicator of opinion. This shift demonstrates how significant the "new wave" of HN users is.

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5. pg+Vo[view] [source] 2008-12-10 02:55:50
>>peterc+0n
Downvoting has always been used to express disagreement.
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6. peterc+T81[view] [source] 2008-12-12 01:38:41
>>pg+Vo
If that's an official sanction, then I'm in Giles Bowkett's camp. That sort of policy leads to groupthink, not honest debate where people feel at ease to express their opinions, however controversial.

I've routinely voted up people I disagree with because I thought this was a place where opinions across the spectrum were to be encouraged. It would be sad to see this is now not the case and that instead you should say whatever's most likely to get you points. Are the people on the leaders board meant to be the most "average" in opinion as judged by HN readers? That sounds downright boring.

Of course, you might just be saying that's how people use downvoting, not how they should use it - which I'd agree with. Even so, a sanction against this practice would be super as it removes one's motivation to actually express one's true opinion (unless burning karma is one's hobby).

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