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1. ThisIs+D9[view] [source] 2024-02-06 18:30:19
>>eswat+(OP)
> The whistleblower, whom The Bureau is calling D.M., immigrated to Canada as an international student from India, making him a minority among mostly Chinese-Canadian co-workers at the Aurora branch.

> “I am going to reveal potential mortgage fraud at HSBC Bank Canada and possibly some employees benefited from the fraud, financially pocketing thousands of dollars, which I call the proceeds of crime.”

> FINTRAC’s study doesn’t say that Canadian banks knowingly issued fake-income mortgages to Chinese diaspora buyers in Toronto. But in an interview, D.M. said banking staff are trained to guard against fraud, and the loan application packages he reviewed in Aurora beggared belief.

> The Bureau’s review of HSBC Canada emails and D.M.’s text messages, shows he came to believe numerous employees at the Aurora branch had direct knowledge of faked Chinese income mortgages, and a veteran manager with oversight of more than 10 Greater Toronto branches knew about broad and questionable mortgage lending for Chinese diaspora clients.

> Pointing to specific examples, D.M. claimed that another branch colleague had admitted processing numerous loan applications without meeting his clients, because a branch manager delivered her subordinates foreign income client applications so “they did not have to get sales themselves.”

> “She said yes, she knows specially in Mainland China there is a team who would even answer emails and phone calls verifying [Chinese income] but it’s a sophisticated and well organised scam,” D.M. 's email to HSBC Canada managers says. [...] “When I asked for such a serious issue if she raised a HSBC confidential [complaint] or not she evaded my question,” D.M. wrote. “Now we all love numbers, but I don't think the bank will like these kinds of numbers achieved through this way.”

Sounds like that branch is compromised

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2. topspi+MF[view] [source] 2024-02-06 20:48:02
>>ThisIs+D9
> Sounds like that branch is compromised

"Since 2015, the whistleblower concluded, more than 10 Toronto-area HSBC branches had issued at least $500-million"

It's not a branch. It's the whole bank. And you can safely infer it's not the only bank.

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3. bonest+uN[view] [source] 2024-02-06 21:23:41
>>topspi+MF
Don't get me wrong, it's definitely a problem, and something needs to be done, but lets also try to keep it in perspective... $500 million could well be 500 mortgages in Toronto. That would be about 0.02% of the private dwellings in Toronto.
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4. simmer+Ie1[view] [source] 2024-02-06 23:43:20
>>bonest+uN
Remember this is $500 million awarded to people out competing honest Canadians looking for housing who aren't lying about their incomes.

If 10 people bid for a house, it's the guy in China lying about their income setting the house price when they win, by what HSBC is doing. This will have an outsized effect on the market.

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5. Peteri+xv1[view] [source] 2024-02-07 02:01:18
>>simmer+Ie1
It's $500m that went to "honest Canadians" selling their real estate. The house isn't gone, it's still there, and will probably get sold to Canadians when the bubble pops, possibly much cheaper.
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6. fennec+qy1[view] [source] 2024-02-07 02:28:03
>>Peteri+xv1
Ahaha, the bubble popping. That'll be the day. All they're doing is increasing house prices for no reason. Houses are now just casino chips for rich people.
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7. Peteri+rA1[view] [source] 2024-02-07 02:50:29
>>fennec+qy1
On the other hand if it doesn't pop, then it literally doesn't matter if the income documents were fake, as the bank has good collateral and giving the loan turned out not to be a mistake.
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