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1. hiAndr+JZ1[view] [source] 2024-01-28 11:36:25
>>onnnon+(OP)
I never worried particularly much about climate change, but just to hedge my bets for my kids I moved to northern Europe. For the most part it's just equated to milder (= bearable) Winters and nicer summers up here.

I guess we also spend a fair bit on moving to renewables up here - Finland achieved energy self sufficiency last year thanks to a good combination of nuclear + solar + hydro. If I were an ideologue in either direction I'd probably say "that's the real reason I moved" or "can't believe they're waiting my tax money on this", but I'm not, I'm just a guy who likes hedging his bets. The nuclear is especially nice because cheap electricity is the true backbone of society, and we've seen the market prices go straight up _negative_ a few times due to overproduction.

Self recommending! Come to Finland and help us build a stronger democracy, whatever that means to you.

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2. BodyCu+Y32[view] [source] 2024-01-28 12:13:46
>>hiAndr+JZ1
This is an illusion. There is no safe place, you can’t escape the reality of global warming by moving to another place.
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3. textbo+Dg2[view] [source] 2024-01-28 13:53:32
>>BodyCu+Y32
The earth has had some of the fastest warming ever in the last 15 thousand. During this time crop yields have increased dramatically. The trend is unmistakable, the warmer the planet, the more food we produce.
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4. singin+Gi2[view] [source] 2024-01-28 14:04:39
>>textbo+Dg2
100% of people who mistake correlation for causation end up dead.
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5. textbo+nk2[view] [source] 2024-01-28 14:14:19
>>singin+Gi2
All the climate modelling is based on correlation, so I thought that's what we were doing. Is there another approach we should be taking?
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6. wredue+hr2[view] [source] 2024-01-28 15:01:56
>>textbo+nk2
Dude no. We know that the gasses we are releasing cause warming and we know the ratio of those gases naturally occurring vs human pollution.
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7. t0bia_+kA2[view] [source] 2024-01-28 16:03:46
>>wredue+hr2
How do you know?
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8. wredue+DJ2[view] [source] 2024-01-28 16:59:15
>>t0bia_+kA2
We know because it’s measurable.

You. Literally YOU. Can trivially measure the impact of different gases on temperature.

Telling the difference between natural and human produced is probably not doable by you personally, however, human burned pollution tends to have different atomic markers from naturally occurring. We have mandatory pollution reporting. We can do basic maths to find reasonably close numbers to how much of the pollution is natural and how much is from us.

With regard to “the prediction models are always wrong” fake news propaganda bullshit:

They are always wrong in a way that’s worse for us by underestimating the bad impacts. Every time we improve the models, the outcomes are worse even faster than the models predict, and we have to find why.

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9. t0bia_+ZX2[view] [source] 2024-01-28 18:34:13
>>wredue+DJ2
Yet you don't know nothing, you believe in catastrophic scenarios.

We can measure anecdotaly that temperature is slightly rising. The reason why is it happening and happend in history multiple times is topic for debate that we can explore.

However your tone is not open for debate and use exactly same words as those you fight against.

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