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1. ptx+a5[view] [source] 2023-12-27 16:51:52
>>gnufx+(OP)
He laments that users "don't know about the freedoms we promote which are increasingly in their interest", but wasn't this the point of Open Source as compared to Free Software, to refocus the messaging from the user's freedoms to the economic benefit for companies?

The Free Software Definition mentions "user" 22 times and "freedom" 79 times, whereas the Open Source Definition has zero occurrences of these terms. It doesn't seem surprising that the user freedom message isn't getting through if you completely scrub it from the messaging.

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2. nparaf+jm[view] [source] 2023-12-27 18:25:25
>>ptx+a5
> is that Open Source has completely failed to serve the common person. For the most part, if they use us at all they do so through a proprietary software company's systems, like Apple iOS or Google Android, both of which use Open Source for infrastructure but the apps are mostly proprietary.

This most certainly wouldn't have happened if "open source realism" didn't stood against free software "utopian" idealists. I still remember the "Linux Kernel is now in most devices in the world" when Android came out. This didn't went well, didn't it?

Lastly, isn't redhat an enthusiastic supporter of open source ? The domain https://opensource.com/ is literally copyrighted and supported by redhat...

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3. pabs3+UD1[view] [source] 2023-12-28 03:50:25
>>nparaf+jm
RedHat no longer pays the people who worked on the articles at opensource.com, they all got fired in the recent layoffs.
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4. nparaf+wS1[view] [source] 2023-12-28 06:39:40
>>pabs3+UD1
Supported by redhat is practically on the headline of the page. "Copyright ©2021 Red Hat, Inc." is at the bottom. Redhat nowadays speak mostly about open source and almost never about free software.
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5. pabs3+N32[view] [source] 2023-12-28 08:51:25
>>nparaf+wS1
The team probably didn't bother to change those things after they got fired. Notice the latest post and lack of recent activity.
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6. nparaf+IK4[view] [source] 2023-12-29 04:30:05
>>pabs3+N32
Red Hat - We make open source technologies for the enterprise: redhat.com webpage title

From wikipedia: Red Hat, Inc. is an American software company that provides open source software products to enterprises

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7. pabs3+VM4[view] [source] 2023-12-29 05:04:08
>>nparaf+IK4
Yes, but they still stopped funding opensource.com.
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