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>>anigbr+(OP)
I have no skin in this game.

What I have seen is a confusion (perhaps intentional) between anti-semitism, and protesting Israel’s behavior since the Hamas attack in October.

Criticizing Israel’s response is not anti-Semitism- it is literally just criticizing the response.

>>Scubab+2n
>Criticizing Israel’s response is not anti-Semitism- it is literally just criticizing the response.

Okay - then what should be Israel's response? For me what they are doing is the bare minimum with the minimum casualties from the options they have. Hamas is Gaza's government. Hamas has intertwined the civilian and the military infrastructure. Hamas has made sure that the civilian Palestinians will suffer if you target Hamas. And it was Hamas that made sure with organized rape, torture and atrocities on Oct 7 that it can't be overlooked or forgiven.

Here is a good rule of thumb - if you are going to stir shit - stick to just killing. Don't livestream torture and rape, so diplomacy will have something to work with.

>>Reptil+oy
Their response should be to leave the occupied territories, which aren't theirs to begin with, and to recognize a Palestinian state. Israel has held millions of Palestinians under military occupation for more than half a century, and it's way past time that that ended.

>>Diogen+mA
Israel did leave Gaza though. Gaza elected Hamas, and they carried out this attack.

So what should Israel do specifically in Gaza?

>>edanm+BE
Gaza did not elect Hamas. Hamas got 43% of the vote (their opposition was notoriously corrupt) and then they fought a civil war against the Palestinian Authority to assume control of Gaza.

>>notthe+6u1
That's inaccurate, Hamas won the 2006 legislative election. The reason they fought a civil war was because Fatah (with the backing of US and I think Israel) was trying to take control over Gaza despite the elections, and they fought to "keep control" of it.

From Wikipedia: > The Palestinian legislative election took place on 25 January 2006 and was judged to be free and fair by international observers.[18][19] It resulted in a Hamas victory, surprising Israel and the United States, which had expected their favoured partner, Fatah, to retain power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)#2006_Pal...

>>edanm+gC1
They didn't win a majority, and did not form a coalition government, and then took Gaza by force