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[return to "We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO"]
1. laserl+gb[view] [source] 2023-11-22 07:14:19
>>staran+(OP)
With Sam coming back as CEO, hasn't OpenAI board proven that it has lost its function? Regardless of who is in the board, they won't be able to exercise one of the most fundamental of their rights, firing the CEO, because Sam has proven that he is unfireable. Now, Sam can do however he pleases, whether it is lying, not reporting, etc. To be clear, I don't claim that Sam did, or will, lie, or misbehave.
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2. random+Yf[view] [source] 2023-11-22 07:49:33
>>laserl+gb
No that hasn't at all been the case. The board acted like the most incompetent group of individuals who've even handed any responsibility. If they went through due process, notified their employees and investors, and put out a statement of why they're firing the CEO instead of doing it over a 15 min Google meet and then going completely silent, none of this outrage would have taken place.
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3. OnAYDI+tM1[view] [source] 2023-11-22 17:24:08
>>random+Yf
Actually the board may not have acted in most professional way but in due process they kind of proved Sam Altman is unfireable for sure, even if they didn't intend to.

They did notify everyone. They did it after firing which is within their rights. They may also choose to stay silent if there is legitimate reason for it such as making the reasons known may harm the organization even more. This is speculation obviously.

In any case they didn't omit doing anything they need to and they didn't exercise a power they didn't have. The end result is that the board they choose will be impotent at the moment, for sure.

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4. jonas2+fb2[view] [source] 2023-11-22 19:06:01
>>OnAYDI+tM1
Firing Sam was within the board's rights. And 90% of the employees threatening to leave was within their rights.

All this proved is that you can't take a major action that is deeply unpopular with employees, without consulting them, and expect to still have a functioning organization. This should be obvious, but it apparently never crossed the board's mind.

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5. m3kw9+V33[view] [source] 2023-11-22 23:56:49
>>jonas2+fb2
Not sure how much of the employees leaving have to do with negotiating Sam back, must be a big factor but not all, during the table talk Emmett, Angelo and Ilya must have decided that it wasn’t a good firing and a mistake in retrospect and it is to fix it.
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