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1. garris+EJ[view] [source] 2023-11-22 11:59:46
>>staran+(OP)
If OpenAI remains a 501(c)(3) charity, then any employee of Microsoft on the board will have a fiduciary duty to advance the mission of the charity, rather than the business needs of Microsoft. There are obvious conflicts of interest here. I don't expect the IRS to be a fan of this arrangement.
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2. baking+G91[view] [source] 2023-11-22 14:31:44
>>garris+EJ
My guess is that the non-profit has never gotten this kind of scrutiny now and the new directors are going to want to get lawyers involved to cover their asses. Just imagine their positions when Sam Altman really does something worth firing.

I think it was a real mistake to create OpenAI as a public charity and I would be hesitant to step into that mess. Imagine the fun when it tips into a private foundation status.

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3. ryukop+aQ2[view] [source] 2023-11-22 22:36:38
>>baking+G91
Are there any similar cases of this "non-profit board overseeing a (huge) for-profit company" model? I want to like the concept behind it. Was this inevitable due to the leadership structure of OpenAI, or was it totally preventable had the right people been on the board? I wish I had the historical context to answer that question.
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4. lacker+9W2[view] [source] 2023-11-22 23:10:39
>>ryukop+aQ2
Yes, for example Novo Nordisk is a pharmaceutical company controlled by a nonprofit, worth around $100B.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novo_Nordisk_Foundation

There are other similar examples like Ikea.

But those examples are for mature, established companies operating under a nonprofit. OpenAI is different. Not only does it have the for-profit subsidiary, but the for-profit needs to frequently fundraise. It's natural for fundraising to require renegotiations in the board structure, possibly contentious ones. So in retrospect it doesn't seem surprising that this process would become extra contentious with OpenAI's structure.

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