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>>andsoi+(OP)
This will be an interesting test to see how fast you can bootstrap GPT-4 level performance with unlimited funds and talent that already has deep knowledge of the internals. With the initial adoption of ChatGPT alongside Copilot, OpenAI's data moat of crawled data & RLHF is pretty vast. And that's not leaving the walled garden of OpenAI. You can simulate a lot of this using other off-the-shelf LLMs (see Alpaca) but nothing is a substitute for real world observed usage.

In a related note, has this meaningfully broken through to the mainstream yet? If a ChatGPT competitor comes out tomorrow that is just as good - but under a different brand - how many people will switch because it's Altman backed? I'll be curious to find out.

>>icyfox+9g
Many of OpenAIs most talented people left to start Anthropic. They have billions in funding and have not yet got particularly close to GPT-4.

I think that illustrates it will be a be a big uphill battle for any new entrant no matter how well funded or resourced.

>>tempus+6l
The parent post is literally true yet keeps getting downvoted — what a mess HN has become, too

>>leoh+um
-2 points and a truly shifting +/- situation

@dang — any plans to do anything here

I mean not like you have to but yeah I can think of some stuff that could make this better probably (or at minimum experiments that could be run)

Also not on this post but in general I mean