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1. mariaa+Xf1[view] [source] 2023-11-19 08:16:41
>>medler+(OP)
If Altman gets to return, it’s the goodbye of AI ethics within OpenAI and the elimination of the nonprofit. Also, I believe that hiring him back because of “how much he is loved by people within OpenAI” is like forgetting that a corrupt president did what they did. In all honesty, that has precedent, so it wouldn’t be old news. Also, I read a lot of people here saying this is about engineers vs scientists…I believe that people don’t understand that Data Scientists are full stack engineers. Ilya is one. Greg has just been inspiring people and stopped properly coding with the team a long time ago. Sam never did any code and the vision of an AGI comes from Ilya…Even if Mira now sides with Sam, I believe there’s a lot of social pressure for the employees to support Sam and it shouldn’t be like that. Again, I do believe OpenAI was and is a collective effort. But, I wouldn’t treat Sam as the messiah or compare him to Steve Jobs. That’s indecent towards Steve Jobs who was actually a UX designer.
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2. tim333+wA1[view] [source] 2023-11-19 11:35:23
>>mariaa+Xf1
>If Altman gets to return, it’s the goodbye of AI ethics

Any evidence he's unethical? Or just dislike him?

He actually seems to have done more practical stuff like experimenting with UBI, to mitigate AI risk than most people.

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3. latexr+5E1[view] [source] 2023-11-19 12:06:42
>>tim333+wA1
That “experimenting with UBI” is indistinguishable from any other cryptocurrency scam. It took from people, and he described it with the words that define a Ponzi scheme. That project isn’t “mitigating AI risk”, it pivoted to distinguish between AI and human generated content, a problem created by his other company, by continuing to collect your biometric data.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-...

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4. tim333+0U1[view] [source] 2023-11-19 14:23:16
>>latexr+5E1
He also did cash in Oakland https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/22/silicon-v...

I signed up from Worldcoin and have been given over $100 which I changed to real money and think it's rather nice of them. They never asked me for anything apart from the eye id check. I didn't have to give my name or anything like that. Is that indistinguishable from any other cryptocurrency scam? I'm not aware of one the same. If you know of another crypto that wants to give me $100 do let me know. If anything I think it's more like VCs paying for your Uber in the early days. It's VC money basically at the moment, with I think they idea they can change it into a global payment network or something like that. As to whether that will work, I'm a bit skeptical but who knows.

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5. latexr+1X1[view] [source] 2023-11-19 14:44:19
>>tim333+0U1
> They never asked me for anything apart from the eye id check.

You say that like it’s nothing, but your biometric data has value.

> Is that indistinguishable from any other cryptocurrency scam?

You’re ignoring all the other people who didn’t get paid (linked articles).

Sam himself described the plan with the same words you’d describe a Ponzi scheme.

>>38326957

> If you know of another crypto that wants to give me $100 do let me know.

I knew of several. I don’t remember names but do remember one that was a casino and one that was tidied to open-source contributions. They gave initial coins to get you in the door.

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