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1. shmatt+by[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:10:04
>>medler+(OP)
This makes no sense. People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup.

The board was Altmans boss - this is pretty much their only job. Altman knew this and most likely ignored any questions or concerns of theirs thinking he is the unfireable superstar

Imagine if your boss fired you - and your response was - I’ll come back if you quit! Yeah, no. People might confuse status with those of actual ceo shareholders like zuck, bezos, or musk. But Altman is just another employee

The shareholders can fire the board, but that’s not what he’s asking for. And so far we haven’t heard anything about them getting fired. So mostly this just seems like an egomaniac employee who thinks he is the company (while appropriating the work of some really really smart data scientists)

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2. Workac+NB[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:31:04
>>shmatt+by
I think the allure for Altman though would be that OpenAI already has all the pieces in place.

Going off and starting his own thing would be great, but it would be at least a year to get product out, even if he had all the same players making it. And that's just to catch up to current tech

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3. boring+lD[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:39:41
>>Workac+NB
Thats ship has sailed for him if hes not on the openAI train out of town. He'd be like a third party political candidate if he tried another run at it building his own team+product from scratch. Lots of other great things to do for sure but probably not a similar supercharged role. It just wouldn't be the same - OpenAI clearly the front runner right now
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4. alumin+gE[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:45:37
>>boring+lD
What if OAI's entire research organization follows him? Surely it's one of the best teams working today.
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5. cthalu+6G[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:57:12
>>alumin+gE
It's still tough. They won't have the data used to train the model, which is an incredibly important part. There's a lot of existing competitors in this space with headstarts. There's no guarantee that the entire research organization will follow Sam even if they leave OpenAI - they're going to have a lot of offers and opportunities at other companies that have an advantage.

It's also not clear that this is a realistic scenario - Ilya is the real deal, and there's likely plenty of people that believe in him over Altman.

Of course, the company has also expanded massively under Altman in a more commercial environment, so there are probably quite a few people that believe in Altman over him.

I doubt either side ends up with the entire research organization. I think a very real possibility is both sides end up with less than half of what OpenAI had Friday morning.

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6. wesapi+AI[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:12:49
>>cthalu+6G
Isn't also because of OpenAI scraping the internet that companies got the walls up. How else is anyone able to gathering training data these days?
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