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1. convex+X1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 02:56:12
>>apsec1+(OP)
Sutskever: "You can call it (a coup), and I can understand why you chose this word, but I disagree with this. This was the board doing its duty to the mission of the nonprofit, which is to make sure that OpenAI builds AGI that benefits all of humanity."

Scoop: theinformation.com

https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1725707548106580255

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2. peyton+G3[view] [source] 2023-11-18 03:09:22
>>convex+X1
Very unprofessional way to approach this disagreement.
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3. anonym+24[view] [source] 2023-11-18 03:11:55
>>peyton+G3
How so? It's just another firing and being escorted out the door.
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4. janeje+O4[view] [source] 2023-11-18 03:16:36
>>anonym+24
The wording is very clearly hostile and aggressive, especially for a formal statement, and the wording, again, makes it very clear that they are burning all bridges with Sam Altman, and it is very clear that 1. it was done extremely suddenly, 2. with very little notice or discussion with any other stakeholder (e.g. Microsoft being completely blindsided, not even waiting 30 minutes for the stock market to close, doing this shortly before Thanksgiving break, etc).

You don't really see any of this in most professional settings.

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5. clnq+29[view] [source] 2023-11-18 03:47:52
>>janeje+O4
It is quite gauche for a company to burn bridges with their upper management. This bodes poorly for ever hoping to attract executives in the future. Even Bobby Kotick got a more graceful farewell from Activision Blizzard, where they tried to clear his name. It is only prudent business.

Certainly, this is very immature. It wouldn't be out of context in HBO's Succession.

Whether what happened is right or just in some sense is a different conversation. We could speculate on what is going on in the company and why, but the tactlessness is evident.

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6. ryandr+5C[view] [source] 2023-11-18 07:48:22
>>clnq+29
People get fired all the time: suddenly, too. If I got fired by my company tomorrow, they wouldn't treat me with kid gloves, they'd just end my livelihood like it was nothing. I'd probably find out when I couldn't log in. Why should "upper management" get a graceful farewell? We don't have royalty in the USA. One person is not inherently better than another.
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7. insani+RF1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 15:42:36
>>ryandr+5C
Because no one cares if you get fired but people really care if a CEO gets fired. The scope of a CEO's responsibilities are near-global across the company, firing them is a serious action. Your scope as an engineer is, typically, extremely small by comparison.

This isn't about being better at all.

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