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1. minima+y[view] [source] 2023-11-18 04:45:53
>>aliabd+(OP)
It appears the reporting was accurate: Ilya staged a coup.

Notably, Sam/Greg do not guess or insinuate why he did a coup.

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2. adamde+51[view] [source] 2023-11-18 04:49:05
>>minima+y
Apparently due to Sam's ego and wanting to use OpenAI to achieve a Musk-like cult status: https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/17xoact/sam_altman_...
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3. lannis+b1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 04:49:59
>>adamde+51
Source: trust me bro, I'm a random reddit user.
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4. throwa+h2[view] [source] 2023-11-18 04:56:34
>>lannis+b1
It's harder to tell now, but from a timeline of events, that supposed OpenAI insider on Reddit had key details of the 'palace coup' that reputable journalists like Kara Swisher (and now a primary source of Greg Brockman) have largely confirmed.

I think the Reddit user is legitimate.

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5. s1arti+C4[view] [source] 2023-11-18 05:14:41
>>throwa+h2
unfortunately, that is also how reddit roleplay works too.
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6. himara+u5[view] [source] 2023-11-18 05:20:06
>>s1arti+C4
front-running scoops from journalists?
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7. s1arti+Ha[view] [source] 2023-11-18 05:58:12
>>himara+u5
yeah, often times that is the case. Because reddit is antonymous and free, people can and do make all kinds of claims, some of which come true. If you have 500 people making up different claims, it is likely that one of them will come true, even if that person was guessing/lying.

Im not saying that real leaks dont happen, but that pre-running the news is really weak evidence the on reddit, unless the claims are incredibly specific.

I dont think there was anything they said on reddit that was very specific, and several posters in the HN thread speculating the same thing, just without claiming to be "in the room".

It is kind of like publishing multiple weather predictions, and then claiming credit for the one that is correct.

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8. himara+jb[view] [source] 2023-11-18 06:04:58
>>s1arti+Ha
The consistent detail about the store breaking the camel's back sounds rather specific. I guess time will tell whether more claims by this user hold up.
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9. s1arti+cb1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 14:16:51
>>himara+jb
>I guess time will tell whether more claims by this user hold up.

Thats the point, it doesnt matter if they do or dont.

If you read through their post history, they have a comment or sentence for almost every possible reason:

Difference in vision

forcing development to fast

Didn't listen to safety concerns

Lying about finances

Making deals without the board

Hiding financial matters.

It is like someone is rattling off the top 10 guesses for the reason from HN or predication markets.

Now if they said something like Ilya Sutskever called Sam at 1215 on hangouts to tell him, That would be a be pretty solid proof.

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