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1. johnwh+c5[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:31:48
>>nickru+(OP)
Edit: I called it

https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725682088639119857

nothing to do with dishonesty. That’s just the official reason.

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I haven’t heard anyone commenting about this, but the two main figures here-consider: This MUST come down to a disagreement between Altman and Sutskever.

Also interesting that Sutskever tweeted a month and a half ago

https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907

The press release about candid talk with the board… It’s probably just cover up for some deep seated philosophical disagreement. They found a reason to fire him that not necessarily reflects why they are firing him. He and Ilya no longer saw eye to eye and it reached its fever pitch with gpt 4 turbo.

Ultimately, it’s been surmised that Sutskever had all the leverage because of his technical ability. Sam being the consummate businessperson, they probably got in some final disagreement and Sutskever reached his tipping point and decided to use said leverage.

I’ve been in tech too long and have seen this play out. Don’t piss off an irreplaceable engineer or they’ll fire you. not taking any sides here.

PS most engineers, like myself, are replaceable. Ilya is probably not.

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2. jeron+Z5[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:35:39
>>johnwh+c5
the theory that Altman did something in bad faith means that it might not be a disagreement but it's something that forced Sutskever to vote against Sam
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3. during+U6[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:40:29
>>jeron+Z5
The theory is Altman gave his eye scanning crypto company early access to openAI tech without telling anyone and what ensued is just FAFO in action.
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4. woeiru+59[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:51:20
>>during+U6
That’s not big enough to immediately terminate him.
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5. dragon+zb[view] [source] 2023-11-18 01:05:26
>>woeiru+59
Self-dealing like that really is, not saying I see any reason to suspect its that and not something else, but, yeah, doing that and cocncealing it absolutely would be a reason for both firing him and making the statement made.

Unless Brockman was involved, though, firing Brockman doesn't really make sense.

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6. fragme+ge[view] [source] 2023-11-18 01:20:18
>>dragon+zb
Yeah, looking at the self-dealing going on with WeWork and Adam Neumann, it's not that.
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7. dragon+si[view] [source] 2023-11-18 01:46:22
>>fragme+ge
There's a difference between self-dealing you sell the board on and self-dealing you conceal from the board (also, different where its a pure for-profit where the self-dealing happens and where there is a non-profit involved, because the latter not only raises issues of conflict of interest with the firm, but also potential violations of the rules governing non-profits.)
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