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>>todsac+(OP)
Not a huge Steve Jobs fanboy, but I always liked his quote[1] about craftsmanship, sweating the details, and giving a fuck:

“When you’re a carpenter making a beautiful chest of drawers, you’re not going to use a piece of plywood on the back, even though it faces the wall and nobody will ever see it. You’ll know it’s there, so you’re going to use a beautiful piece of wood on the back. For you to sleep well at night, the aesthetic, the quality, has to be carried all the way through.”

I think software as a whole suffers greatly from this "well, I got it barely done, technically fulfilling the requirements, so my work is over" attitude.

1: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/445621-when-you-re-a-carpen...

>>ryandr+n4
I appreciate this analogy, but Jobs made this work by creating a leadership culture that was obsessed with quality and craftsmanship. By all accounts he would regularly refuse to ship hardware and software that wasn't up to his standards and fired people for not building things to the right specifications. In contrast, most of us work in organizations with the exact opposite leadership mentality, namely "get your work done as quickly as possible so we can sell more product, and fudge whatever you have to to make it through quality testing unscathed".

>>quacke+Z4
The culture hasn't persisted. Take a look at the output of the console app on your Mac: They are using the software equivalent of plywood in Mac OS nowadays.

>>speled+G41
How could it persist? Companies optimize for profit, quality be damned. In contrast, craftsmen take pride in their work, and pride is what creates quality.

>>kibwen+Z61
Fun fact, there's a word in Greek for "pride in your work": Meraki.

>>stavro+sc1
Thanks! If anyone else has a word for this in their native tongue, I'd love to know them.

>>worthl+402
Let me ChatGPT that for you ;)

* Sisu (Finnish): Though not a direct equivalent, "sisu" refers to a blend of determination, resilience, and courage in the face of adversity. It's doing something against the odds, putting extra effort, and not giving up.

* Gaman (Japanese): A term that loosely relates to enduring the seemingly unbearable with patience and dignity. It can apply to doing meticulous, quality work even when situations are challenging.

* Jugaad (Hindi): Jugaad speaks to a creative or innovative fix; essentially finding a low-cost solution to a problem in an intelligent way. It reflects a spirit of resourceful improvisation and can indicate a pride or savvy in being able to solve problems with limited resources.

* Arbejdsglæde (Danish): This word directly translates to "work happiness" and denotes finding joy and satisfaction in the work you do.

* Mānawa (Maori): This is used to describe patience and perseverance, particularly in working toward a goal or mastering a skill.