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>>todsac+(OP)
Not a huge Steve Jobs fanboy, but I always liked his quote[1] about craftsmanship, sweating the details, and giving a fuck:

“When you’re a carpenter making a beautiful chest of drawers, you’re not going to use a piece of plywood on the back, even though it faces the wall and nobody will ever see it. You’ll know it’s there, so you’re going to use a beautiful piece of wood on the back. For you to sleep well at night, the aesthetic, the quality, has to be carried all the way through.”

I think software as a whole suffers greatly from this "well, I got it barely done, technically fulfilling the requirements, so my work is over" attitude.

1: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/445621-when-you-re-a-carpen...

>>ryandr+n4
It comes down to positioning and competition (profit margins). Apple notably sold upmarket consumer products; the segment best placed to pay for quality. If you are downmarket, or if you sell to businesses (where the buyer is not the user), you will find it harder to pull this off. It is the ideal, though!

>>esafak+mb
It’s kind of sad Apple is still sort of the outlier in this multiple decades later.

Every adjacent company ever: “we can beat Apple!!” then actively self-sabotages quality via processes, lax quality control, and a pervasive low level of CBF.