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>>skille+(OP)
I feel like the elephant in the room is that there's no phone battery that's going to stay useful in anywhere close to that time frame, and replacing phone batteries is usually a losing proposition. I've tried, several times. Fake, low-quality batteries are rampant (usually degrading within weeks), and genuine ones are prohibitively expensive -- usually a significant fraction of the cost of a new phone.

>>wheels+B7
The EU are requiring phones to have user-replaceable batteries (no tools) from 2027. Hopefully batteries will stop being a problem soon. https://mashable.com/article/replaceable-batteries-smartphon...

>>h4l+Ss
Not no tools, commercially available tools; see https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2023/1542/oj § 38.

"A portable battery should be considered to be removable by the end-user when it can be removed with the use of commercially available tools and without requiring the use of specialised tools, unless they are provided free of charge, or proprietary tools, thermal energy or solvents to disassemble it. Commercially available tools are considered to be tools available on the market to all end-users without the need for them to provide evidence of any proprietary rights and that can be used with no restriction, except health and safety-related restrictions."

I think a deposit for specialised tools is fair to ensure a return of the tools, other than that, there is nothing controversial here.

>>sbuk+6S
I think that's still too restrictive. I would imagine the intent of "Provided free of charge" is more like "Tiny stamped metal key thingy included with the device" not "Request it, then they send it, then you lose your deposit when you try to send it back and the package is lost".