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1. Taylor+We[view] [source] 2023-09-27 00:51:11
>>pictur+(OP)
This enshittifcation is endemic. Corporations cannot just release a good product and support it. The better the product is and the larger the customer base becomes, the higher the likelihood that some business planner is going to see dollar signs and try to squeeze the product for everything it’s worth. And every time this ruins the product. And we’re here with a proprietary phone OS and proprietary apps. Proprietary firmwares on proprietary hardware. And we are completely at the whim of these companies.

And the option is what, buy a Zigbee dongle and a raspberry pi run some code written by unpaid enthusiasts? 3D print a case for it and mount it on the wall, running updates and fixing it ever few months when some package update breaks it?

I like the concept of lights that run from an app. I don’t have any of the physical Hue switches for my system and it’s fine. But I do not want an app that abuses me, and I do not want to maintain some fragile project made from slapped together code. I want robust open hardware with open source software.

I’m convinced that we can achieve this, but it won’t be with the current model of business and engineering we have today.

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2. dzdt+kj[view] [source] 2023-09-27 01:19:18
>>Taylor+We
The alternative is government standards. You have power outlets you can interchangeably plug different appliances into. Why? Standards. Let there be a standard for color-controllable light sources that ensures interoperability of components, and then there will be competition to hit price-vs-shittiness balances suiting multiple parties.
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3. akira2+Mk[view] [source] 2023-09-27 01:29:15
>>dzdt+kj
The national electrical code is a private standard. Many local laws directly reference it, but it's not created nor maintained by the government in any way. These standards often come about by simply recognizing the most popular solution and then codifying it.

The government is not better at this than the market.

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4. germin+Em[view] [source] 2023-09-27 01:40:10
>>akira2+Mk
It’s not the market that is enforcing those codes, and without enforcement - rules are just suggestions.
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5. akira2+Fo[view] [source] 2023-09-27 01:53:19
>>germin+Em
Of course it is. Try buying insurance on a house that didn't get a building permit. Try reselling it. And how, exactly, does the government "enforce" the code? Are you put in jail for not following it?
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6. germin+yq[view] [source] 2023-09-27 02:05:53
>>akira2+Fo
The government - that supplies that building permit - does also literally send an inspector to my property to enforce the code, yes.
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