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1. krisof+T8[view] [source] 2023-09-21 08:48:45
>>linker+(OP)
I have noticed the announcement of the change too. This materially changes the product for me. I was a happy user so far, and was thinking about buying more bulbs in fact, but not anymore.

Is there a way to force the company to return the money I have paid for my bulbs and hub so far? Even if it is arduous and cost me more money than I'm able to gain back I would be inclined to do it to signal my displeasure with this change.

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2. grumbl+GR1[view] [source] 2023-09-21 18:07:54
>>krisof+T8
Fortunately all of their lights work over a standard Zigbee connection. No need for a Hue Hub or App at all. I was already transitioning my lights from using the Hue Hub/App to directly connecting via Zigbee/HomeAssistant before this was announced.
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3. psyclo+k32[view] [source] 2023-09-21 18:54:31
>>grumbl+GR1
All except their new wifi connected ones... called Wiz.. watch out for those, much more affordable but really crappy app/setup situation.
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4. antx+cs2[view] [source] 2023-09-21 20:26:43
>>psyclo+k32
Also the wiz bulbs have one feature that most others don't have: they get their last state back after a power outage. If there's one thing you don't want, it's a full bright room after a brownout in the middle of the night!
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5. krisof+Vt2[view] [source] 2023-09-21 20:34:11
>>antx+cs2
All Hue lights have this option. You can select different power-on behaviours. "Power loss recovery" is the setting you are describing. It stays off if it was off, and turns back on if it was on.

The default is "Warm white, full brightness", probably mostly to avoid confused people sending back bulbs because they flipped the switch ON and the bulb remained dark. Since traditionally that meant a failed bulb.

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