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>>c420+(OP)
Yet another disturbing revelation about the NYPD brought to light by the STOP project. They're doing great work fighting an uphill battle -- they also tried (unsuccessfully, unfortunately) to keep Mayor Adams's NYPD from flying surveillance drones among the crowds, and even into private backyards, at J'Ouvert this weekend. (He got the idea from his recent trip to visit Netanyahu, who does all sorts of crazy stuff like that regularly.

>>coucha+06
Have you lived near where they celebrate J’Ouvert? I used to live in that part of Brooklyn for 10 years and the festival always incited crime and violence in our immediate area.

I’m not saying drones are the answer, but it is not by any means a totally harmless event.

For those downvoting who don’t want to accept reality, below is an article from just a few days ago. It happens every year.

https://www.amny.com/new-york/brooklyn/spate-of-violence-sul...

>>confou+Pk
You're being downvoted not because fights broke out at a parade but because you think such an event apparently justifies arbitrary levels of policing where the cops still don't actually do anything in the realm of preventing the harm rather than just cleaning it up. I've been in crowds where this kind of stuff happens, although to be fair never with a gun so maybe it's different, but the random people in the crowd jump into breaking up the fight way faster than the cops.

My city, which is not exemplary by any means, after a fuckton of political backlash about the "policing" that happens at protests and parades switched to having a small group of unarmed cops specially trained in deescalation (which is mostly marketing but eh, sure) and comprised of almost entirely minorities, women, and older folks. They're not at all shy about this unit being visibly nonthreatening and they just walk with the people, sometimes joining them. We haven't had any "riots" ever since. It's allllllmost like the police had been instigating them, funny that.

>>Spivak+Tq
You know, it occurs to me that part of their reluctance to jump in and help is that they know they have painted targets on their backs and that some people won't pass up an opportunity at a swing in the close confines of a crowd. They fear the people when outnumbered because all of their policies, strategies, and tactics involve controlling with fear. They don't see themselves as aiding fellow citizens, it's more like begrudgingly assisting the enemy you're actually supposed to eye suspiciously and subjugate. This feeds the cycle. Oh how they reap what they sow!

And to add: shooting a guy in an abuse of force during a traffic stop on an empty highway leaves no witnesses. A crowd will have a hundred eyewitnesses and dozens of phones recording.