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1. knight+4G1[view] [source] 2023-07-29 09:15:44
>>capabl+(OP)
"...whether the site’s original tech-intellectual culture can be responsibly scaled up to make space for a more inclusive, wider-ranging vision of technology."

I don't come to Hacker News for "inclusive" technology - which these days appear to be a politically-correct euphemism for forced diversity.

I come to Hacker News for discussions on technology.

Anything that prioritizes the "inclusive" nature of technology, versus the "technology" itself, is irrelevant to me, and has nothing to do with the main interests of the site (hacking and technology) and should be downvoted. Keep politics and social politics out from Hacker News.

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2. mcdonj+dV1[view] [source] 2023-07-29 11:51:39
>>knight+4G1
Including people is not political. People are not being political by being different and wanting to participate. People are not being political for wanting to make technology that works for people who have different needs related to their abilities or identities.

Technology doesn't happen in a vacuum. It is made by people and for people. People who are not all the same.

YOU are being political by pretending that including people is political.

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3. hurutp+V42[view] [source] 2023-07-29 13:06:12
>>mcdonj+dV1
I feel like this might be a little intellectually dishonest. I think we all know that this comment was never about blind people and their screen readers, but the subversive identity politics that are being played in the name of diversity and inclusion.
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4. mcdonj+Q92[view] [source] 2023-07-29 13:41:42
>>hurutp+V42
I agree that there is intellectual dishonesty in this conversation, but I disagree that I'm the one who is being dishonest.

What exactly is there to subvert if everyone is included?

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5. gray_c+Ix2[view] [source] 2023-07-29 16:17:49
>>mcdonj+Q92
You're being dishonest by implying that discussion of technology is inherently not inclusive and that an effort needs to be made to be inclusive by allowing people who feel oppressed (whether they are or are not) to play in the "oppression olympics" by creating tangential opinionated discussions regarding policy or ethical guidelines that have nothing to do with the technology or the problem the technology is trying to solve.

Technology is inherently apolitical and inclusive. Anyone who claims otherwise is just trying to stir up useless internet flame wars. If you want to uselessly rant about politics on the internet you can go to Reddit.

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6. sander+GH2[view] [source] 2023-07-29 17:12:21
>>gray_c+Ix2
> allowing people who feel oppressed (whether they are or are not) to play in the "oppression olympics" by creating tangential opinionated discussions

Prior to your comment, nobody in this thread has said anything about any of this. This is all stuff that you seem to have read into things people have said that don't actually say anything of the sort.

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