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1. nfried+E7[view] [source] 2023-07-26 11:08:04
>>pabs3+(OP)
I hate to say it, but if you used Chrome to read this, then you're part of the problem.

Awful stuff like this wouldn't stand a chance if Google didn't have such a near-monopoly position.

For the sake of the open internet, please switch to a different browser. IMO, Firefox is best*, but even something chromium based is probably fine. Just not Google Chrome.

* On desktop - Firefox is a bit weaker on Android, with an extemely limited set of extensions (but still better than Chrome with no extensions) and just a Safari wrapper on iOS, with no extensions. (But sync works everywhere!)

(I posted something similar in a different thread recently but I think it bears repeating.)

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2. linza+Za[view] [source] 2023-07-26 11:27:20
>>nfried+E7
I'm honestly (as in putting in multiple hours) trying to switch to Firefox every 4 to 5 months. I tried at least 4 times. I do the dance of migrating bookmarks, passwords, layout preferences, add-ons, workflows, setting up sync, installing on all Android and desktop devices ... and then i run into issues, try to fix some of them, research, then give up and go back to chrome and don't think about it anymore until another article like this pops up on HN.

This time I won't be shamed into doing it again. I don't have the time or motivation.

edit: forgot to mention explicitly, it's not Firefox, it's me. I'm not strong enough.

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3. notpus+Bb[view] [source] 2023-07-26 11:30:59
>>linza+Za
Can you elaborate on the issues you're running into with Firefox? Hopefully we can help you sort these out!
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4. linza+ke4[view] [source] 2023-07-27 10:26:10
>>notpus+Bb
I find that condescending but I'm sure you didn't mean it that way and had good intentions asking that.

The problems I experienced that can be fixed in Firefox itself probably already got fixed.

My (personal) problem with Firefox is that functionally it's not Chrome and doesn't look/feel like it. The claimed non-functional improvements (privacy, freedom, ...) DON'T make up for the difference for me personally.

If Firefox looked and felt more or less exactly like Chrome for the functional parts then I would not have any problem switching for good. It's not at the moment, so this is what stops me from adoption.

I don't propose to change anything (you did). I was merely stating why I'm not on Firefox yet as a data point.

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5. notpus+Dt4[view] [source] 2023-07-27 12:30:12
>>linza+ke4
Absolutely not intended to sound condescending, sorry if that came across that way.

I see your point and it is absolutely within your right to stay on Chrome if you don't want to change. I've found it pretty much identical in terms of functionality and UX for the past decade though. Do you have any particular functional improvements in mind that you're missing in Firefox?

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6. linza+bs7[view] [source] 2023-07-28 07:12:44
>>notpus+Dt4
As an example: https://ibb.co/Wynn5Tg Subjectively(!) Firefox is cluttered and takes much more space than Chrome for itself. Unfocused tabs are hard for me to make out on Firefox.

I think that personally I'm a lost cause. Either give me Firefox in a Chrome's pelt or I stay with Chrome. And maybe that's good this way: Firefox should just focus on new users and make the best browser for "them".

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