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[return to "Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium"]
1. ep103+k5[view] [source] 2023-07-26 12:37:25
>>topshe+(OP)
And also, to switch back to Firefox
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2. PedroB+V7[view] [source] 2023-07-26 12:49:35
>>ep103+k5
Who has been mismanaged for at least a decade and depends on Google to pay their bills..

I'm a FF user since the early 00's and Firefox will mostly not go away because Google has an interest in using it against monopoly accusations but the reality is bleak..

And the reality is these people ( Google in this case ) are so far removed from any moral compass about the Web ( at least what most people here think of "the Web" ) that it's near impossible to do anything about it. These companies are huge and from top to bottom there are certain groups that are hired guns to do a job, no matter what "job" it is, they'll do it, achieve those KPIs, get promoted, get paid. Even for their own detriment in the future, it doesn't matter. Big money now, screw the rest.

Btw, this is how every big company operated since forever, the only "news" here is the disproportionate impact their acts do to the World due to their huge size and influence.

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3. bee_ri+D9[view] [source] 2023-07-26 12:58:26
>>PedroB+V7
I hear Firefox is mismanaged all the time, but it seems to be a perfectly fine browser for the most part. I hear all about sites that won’t render in comments on this website, but they must all be internal tools or something because I never encounter them.
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4. wsgeor+pa[view] [source] 2023-07-26 13:01:53
>>bee_ri+D9
Some Google services I regularly depend on (like YouTube and Google Meet) don't work as well on Firefox as they do on Chrome, in ways that actually matter. Besides that I think most websites work fine.
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5. coffee+Tm[view] [source] 2023-07-26 13:52:24
>>wsgeor+pa
Yes. Google uses chrome-only APIs in a few of its own products and falls back not so gracefully.

Which sort of underscores the monopoly point. There’s no universal free/cheap alternative to Meet, further entrenching Chromium.

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6. notpus+1y[view] [source] 2023-07-26 14:35:14
>>coffee+Tm
How about Jitsi? https://meet.jit.si/

It's free and open source, works everywhere, has stuff like background replacement, and doesn't require signup at all.

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7. FooBar+UC[view] [source] 2023-07-26 14:54:16
>>notpus+1y
Jitsi is super easy to use, and I still can't get older people to use it. They just hear "Zoom" on CNN so they think, "I'm supposed to use Zoom. Other things are weird." So much behavior is just driven by anxiety and habituation.
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8. notpus+GM3[view] [source] 2023-07-27 09:03:24
>>FooBar+UC
I've watched Louis Rossmann's video on Jitsi a couple weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzt0tzsaWDE

He provides a nice piece of anecdata there: for one-on-one meetings, you can just send people a link and usually they just join. Even if they've sent a link to Zoom or Meet or whatever, you still can say “hey, join this instead” and it will work. I haven't tried this yet, but sounds plausible to me.

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