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1. seba_d+35[view] [source] 2023-07-18 12:34:49
>>akyuu+(OP)
There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.
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2. beltsa+Lz[view] [source] 2023-07-18 14:37:38
>>seba_d+35
I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds.

I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs without it.

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3. dahfiz+nM[view] [source] 2023-07-18 15:17:59
>>beltsa+Lz
> I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs without it.

I can't imagine having more than a dozen tabs open, period. You tab hoarders will never make sense to me...

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4. danShu+jl1[view] [source] 2023-07-18 17:20:13
>>dahfiz+nM
It's just ADHD, there's not really a workflow reason that I have 1000+ tabs open. It just kind of happens.

Firefox/Sideberry is useful for mitigating that. I also have workflows set up for mass-exporting my tabs from Firefox to a text file and reorganizing them in plain-text and re-opening just the tabs I care about[0].

Bookmarking on any browser is cumbersome and leads to disorganization over time. Tree-style tabs helps make that organization at least a little bit easier.

[0]: https://textmark.netlify.app/

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5. leland+Dq1[view] [source] 2023-07-18 17:38:20
>>danShu+jl1
It's ADHD sure, but it's also an unwillingness to close tabs, and (generally) that we have poor windowing systems that force us into ~1-2 browser windows at a time because browser windows are harder to manage than tabs.

The big change for me has been realizing that all my "tabs" are still there, in the form of my browser history, or if not, via Google search. If I can't find my way back to a website via my history or via searching the web, then I probably also wouldn't be able to find it among 1000 tabs. So why not close the tabs and be free of them?

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6. imdoor+9x1[view] [source] 2023-07-18 18:04:05
>>leland+Dq1
Most of the times when I've tried finding stuff in (Firefox) history, I wasn't able to. Unless it's in the last week or so. In my experience, history filtering and search options are too basic to be useful. Once I was even desperate enough to try to load some Firefox sqlite file directly, hoping to query history entries, but that didn't work out.

The only reliable way that I've come across for finding stuff after a long time has passed is saving every sightly interesting webpage to Zotero and using fulltext search afterwards (including webpage body).

I'm curious, do you find the builtin browser history facilities sufficient for your needs, or are you using some third party tool for that?

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7. danShu+UD2[view] [source] 2023-07-19 01:12:05
>>imdoor+9x1
> Most of the times when I've tried finding stuff in (Firefox) history, I wasn't able to. Unless it's in the last week or so.

I mentioned this below, but check to see what your history limits are in Firefox (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1039372). It's possible if you do enough browsing that you might have trouble finding older pages because they're not there anymore.

I'm not sure what the best mitigation is for that, I've kind of accepted that history for Firefox is short-term, not long-term. It might be possible to rig up a webextension to save history more permanently, but I suspect it would need to do native messaging I think to do that, and at that point maybe it's better to just do regular copies of the SQLite database.

Relying on Firefox history less also has the kind of minor advantage of allowing you to be more aggressive about cleaning it yourself, which can have a noticeable performance impact in some cases.

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