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1. aeyes+KF[view] [source] 2023-07-01 22:09:35
>>ZacnyL+(OP)
This bug is very unlikely to be the reason. The rate limiter on the server side is cheap and the frontend bug only gets triggered with the rate limit active.

I have seen similar bugs in the systems I oversee because network libraries love to retry requests without sane limitations by default. But I never saw them make our rate limiters sweat. It's slightly more annoying when they hit an API which actually does some expensive work before returning an error but that's why we have rate limits on all public endpoints.

I also guess that the webapp is the least of Twitters traffic and the native apps probably don't have this problem.

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2. epista+5H[view] [source] 2023-07-01 22:17:55
>>aeyes+KF
One thing about having leadership that is known to lie about anything or everything, for any sort of imagined personal gain, is that the very concept of truth is destroyed.

I agree that this is probably not the bug at the root of it all. But I also don't believe the story that Musk is selling for why he's in effect shutting down the site. But both could be true and I'm still thinking about other potential reasons, a complete waste of my time, but it's a weird mental honeypot.

The book "Nothing is true and everything is possible" describes Putin's use of misinformation to maintain control of the populace and eliminate democratic types of politics, but it really feels like it applies here too. There will always be Musk fanbois who will parrot whatever he wants them to say, but most know it's just self-serving BS. And anybody trying to get to the root of everything gets easily sidetracked into narratives that feel right but have zero data backing them, like this bug.

Anyway, highly recommend this book if you want to see a likely path for the future of the US:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_Is_True_and_Everything...

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3. concor+2K[view] [source] 2023-07-01 22:41:19
>>epista+5H
> One thing about having leadership that is known to lie about anything or everything, for any sort of imagined persona gain

I will note that the few times I investigated claims of Elon lies they were not proper lies, either being misunderstood, misleading (which IS unethical, don't get me wrong), of indeterminate truth value (he said, she said type stuff), delusional optimism or actually true.

Like journalists, Musk rarely outright knowingly makes literally false statements, but this does not mean you should take what he says at face value.

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4. epista+gK[view] [source] 2023-07-01 22:43:00
>>concor+2K
I don't want to quibble about semantics, but habitual behavior of this sort just falls under the category of "liar" for me.
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5. concor+oK1[view] [source] 2023-07-02 09:54:00
>>epista+gK
I think it's an important distinction to make. Because it does means that you can actually infer true things from his statements (or a journalists statements, as news orgs do this kind of "lying" a lot), unlike with a habitual liar.
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6. epista+ly3[view] [source] 2023-07-02 23:26:46
>>concor+oK1
I don't agree. There is little to learn from Musk's statements. And lumping all of journalism as being as dishonest as Musk is just plain silly. Sure, if you're on the right the media which is biased towards yoi has been serving you dishonesty and lies for a long time. But that's not journalism as a whole.

Saying "he really believes his lies" is not excuse, because most habitual liars are exactly the same. They have prioritized their own narcissism so far above reality, but that doesn't make them any less of a liar. They are just lying to themselves and everyone else.

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